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“Freedom of Speech, not Freedom of Reach - our enforcement philosophy which means, where appropriate, restricting the reach of Tweets that violate our policies by making the content less discoverable.”

Surprise! Our great 'X' CEO has brought back one more bad thing that we hated about twitter 1.0: Shadowbanning. And they’ve given it a new name: "Freedom of Speech, Not Reach".

Perhaps the new approach by X is an improvement? At least they would “politely” tell you when you’re being shadow banned.

I think freedom of speech implies that people have the autonomy to decide what they want to see, rather than being manipulated by algorithm codes. Now it feels like they’re saying, “you can still have your microphone... We're just gonna cut the power to it if you say something we don't like”.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 246 points 1 year ago

If you're still on Twitter, you're part of the problem.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

People keep repeating this for easy self-righteousness. Again, what about small artists whose careers depend on their social media following?

Fuck Musk, but for better or worse this isn't just about him.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago

Artists whose whole career depends on the whims of social media giants have dug their own hole.

[-] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Easy for you to say. Are you even an artist?

Small artists need a convenient way to get their work to the eyes of regular people. If their self-hosted gallery is seen by no one, it doesn't facilitate their career. They generally can't afford to buy ads and are not popular enough to get a fan made groups spreading the word everywhere else.

Not to mention that this is such a callous attitude in general. Because you in particular aren't susceptible to this manner in which wealthy assholes are screwing people, then it's their fault for needing it?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't make money as an artist, but I live with two of them. They both migrated to Mastodon, with my technical assistance, and left Twitter before Elmo bought it.

Bear in mind I'm not the previous commenter, but I believe what they were saying is that the writing was on the wall over a year ago, and there are alternatives. Artists and computer geeks tend to get along with each other, and so most artists should have a techy friend that can help them with exposure online. I understand that switching platforms is inconvenient, and tiresome. Looking at it from a tech perspective however, it's a better ROI.

The worst of it is the ≈week of daily posts right before you shut down your Twitter account, linking to your new account. My friends were able to direct link, but I don't know if Elmo is allowing that any more.

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[-] SiliconDon@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

All the more reason to give their following a chance to find them elsewhere, and to follow them there when they do. There are other options; ideally standards-based federated options not susceptible to hostile takeovers by unstable billionaires

[-] kefka@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It doesn't work like this and you know it. If you're selling something you have to take it to the markets where people are. They don't come to you if they don't know who you are. You'd have to be Taylor swift levels to not give a fuck about the major socials.

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[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I'm not an artist but I know a lot of them and basically only use twitter to follow them. And honestly, the ball is in their court. I see a lot of them complaining about shadowbans and it being impossible to grow a following. But nobody wants to jump ship to a place without an audience.

The problem being there will be no audience sitting around a new platform waiting for a show to start. They need to start double posting, IMO. Being the change they want in the world. They don't have to quit twitter, but posting content to twitter and mastodon (for example) would give their audience a reason to move, would give them a chance to grow, etc.

There's even apps like PostyBirb that can do the multiposting for you.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 203 points 1 year ago

So originally, it was that he was a "free speech absolutist," then it was that he was in favor of free speech "within the bounds of the law," and now he's not even in favor of that.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 184 points 1 year ago

He never was, that was just an excuse to amplify the voice of his far-right buddies.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I know. It was more about what he said.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
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[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

I don't believe this because it gives Elon Musk too much credit and honestly I think he's just a big loser who will latch on to whoever likes him at the time.

A series of stupid events led to Twitter being full of stupid far right nutjobs and stupid Elon decided they're his people now because they use his stupid platform.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'm not so sure about that. The big tell is that whenever a far-right user complained to him about getting a tweet removed or the account getting banned or something like that, he'd respond that he'll personally take care of it. Just imagine, a billionare running a platform with millions of users personally taking care of a single one. This never happened with other people.

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[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

By free speech absolutist he really meant he thinks fascists should be able to say whatever they want.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

By free speech absolutist he really meant he thinks fascists should be able to force you to listen to them say whatever they want.

[-] pmarcilus@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago

Freedom for me but not for thee

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago

Raise your hand if you are convinced this will not impact the people who pay for the blue checkmark. Meaning that a lot of Elon Fanbois / Bots / Fascists will be seen with theit shitty takes (since the checkmark pushes your comments up), while voices of reason will be dragged down further.

Twitter is rapidly becomming the new Truth Social and it's sad to watch.

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[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Can we stop posting musk shit? It’s exhausting.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago

Have you considered joining "Enough Musk Spam", another such community devoted entirely to posting about the thing they dont like seeing posts about?

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Lol. I blocked that shit.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Like it or not (I don't), free speech has nothing to do with social media. Platforms are free to do this, it's the government that can't limit your speech like this.

Given those circumstances, I wonder if social media should be treated like infrastructure. That would fuse constitutional rights and the platform itself.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

While you're right, I think the issue here is the hypocrisy of Musk claiming to be pro free speech (specifically on his platform) only to then repeatedly limit speech he doesn't personally like.

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[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 30 points 1 year ago

This is from April. Did something change with it?

[-] DetectiveKakuna@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is the most important comment on this thread. I wish lemmy forced you to post the date of the article

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[-] Jat620DH27@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The topic is trending on X today so I didn't noticed the date. But I guess there might have been some updates compared to April?

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[-] Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Someone predicted that they were going to slowly add back all the stuff they took out and they were right

[-] OskarAxolotl@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think most people could have predicted that. Most of the things Musk removed were there for a reason (Regardless of whether they where popular with Twitter's users or not). Mostly of economical or legal nature. You cannot simply remove them if you want Twitter to someday make a profit.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago

You can say whatever you like... in the privacy of your own cell.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Since when a rule change to (any site whatsoever) related to technology in any way? Yeah, we get it, you HATE "Xtwitter" and want it to burn but please... you are beating a dead horse at this rate. Just let it go.

That, or the mods around here need a reality check and start dropping some chill pills (i.e temp. bans) on users like OP..

[-] wmassingham@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not, but the top mod also runs a bot that automatically posts content from various news sites, probably based on keywords. And I'd bet that some of those keywords are Twitter and Facebook. So don't expect them to follow their own rules.

tech·nol·o·gy
/tekˈnäləjē/
noun

  • the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, especially in industry. "advances in computer technology"

  • machinery and equipment developed from the application of scientific knowledge. "it will reduce the industry's ability to spend money on new technology"

  • the branch of knowledge dealing with engineering or applied sciences.

Some bozo changing the rules on his social media site is not scientific knowledge.

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[-] Earthprototype@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I don't give a fuck about Twitter, stop posting this garbage already!

[-] TheDramaLlama@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

it's not a revolution if you don't wind up where you started

[-] acutfjg@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago
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