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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

I was playing around with Lemmy statistics the other day, and I decided to take the number of comments per post. Essentially a measure of engagement – the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment, or had something they felt like sharing. The average for every single Lemmy instance was 8.208262964 comments per post.

So I modeled that with a Poisson distribution, in stats terms X~Po(8.20826), then found the critical regions assuming that anything that had a less than 5% chance of happening, is important. In other words 5% is the significance level. The critical regions are the region either side of the distribution where the probability of ending up in those regions is less than 5%. These critical regions on the lower tail are, 4 comments and on the upper tail is 13 comments, what this means is that if you get less than 4 comments or more than 13 comments, that's a meaningful value. So I chose to interpret those results as meaning that if you get 5 or less comments than your post is "a bad post", or if you get 13 or more than your post is "a good post". A good post here is litterally just "got a lot of comments than expected of a typical post", vice versa for "a bad post".

You will notice that this is quite rudimentary, like what about when the Americans are asleep, most posts do worse then. That's not accounted for here, because it increases the complexity beyond what I can really handle in a post.

To give you an idea of a more sweeping internet trend, the adage 1% 9% 90%, where 1% do the posting, 9% do the commenting, and 90% are lurkers – assuming each person does an average of 1 thing a day, suggests that c/p should be about 9 for all sites regardless of size.

Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p, this means that a “good post” on .ml is a post that gets 9 comments, whilst a “good post” on .world has to get 15 comments. On hexbear.net, you need 20 comments, to be a “good post”. I got the numbers for instance level comments and posts from here

This is a little bit silly, since a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement, specifically in the form of comments – so if you are reading this you should comment, otherwise you are an awful person. No matter how meaningless the comment.

Anyway I thought that was cool.

EDIT: I've cleared up a lot of the wording and tried to make it clearer as to what I am actually doing.

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[-] chirospasm@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Hey, just tossing in a comment here, I think this post is a good post!

[-] NerdyPopRocks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I follow instructions, I think. Good post

[-] capnminus@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

this is a certified good post

[-] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago
[-] zenforyen@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Haha nice bait, which I took to get some actually interesting statistics, well executed !

Here is your comment, you deserve it. Now your post made it to "average"! You're welcome.

(Was there any correlation between upvote count and the comment-based metrics? That could also be pretty interesting)

[-] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't have any data for upvote count/ comment based metrics. If you have any sites that happen to have that data, send it my way, that'd be amazing!

[-] 2hundredpancakes 4 points 6 days ago

I'm a bit confused but I think I liked this post

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 6 days ago

Another likely cause: you're posting to a non-local community and you got hit by federation issues, while your instance thinks the post got created, the target instance doesn't know about it.

Happened to me a few times.

[-] Saltycracker@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Post in a obscure sub

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Good post bro. 😉

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment

Omg, I’m so glad there isn’t any entity trying to boost this KPI like it’s the only thing that matters in the world.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Thank you for your engagement. As a reward, please enjoy an additional upvote as well as this comment.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Any details you could share about how you obtained and processed the data? It seems like there's a lot of interesting things that could be done with this but I'm not sure where the best place to start would be

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Determining the reason no one replied to your Lemmy post.

This should be a picture of Nicole, the Fediverse chick.

[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

You know, I'm really just waiting for the day voyager supports gif insertion.

[-] J52@lemmy.nz 3 points 6 days ago

I guess those without ego stroking don't care.

[-] Sauciness6413@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Thank you for your insights.

[-] Snoopy@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago

Thank a lot for sharing this with us, i love those data :)

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Your correct use of the plural makes me oddly uncomfortable.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. The commenter's account, or the community they posted to is on .world/.ml? Because those aren't necessarily the same.

[-] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago

Presumably where you posted it, given that local feeds show posts based, not on if someone is on the instance, but rather which instance the post is made on. The model I used is litterally the most basic thing in the world, so I just cobbled something together that was somewhat meaningful. I only took college stats, so complex models are out of my range.

[-] johsny@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago
[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It makes sense that it would be highly dependent on comments because for one, Lemmy's default filter is activity based so the more activity a new post has, the higher it will rank, until displaced by a newer post. The second part is that if there aren't any comments there people might be less likely to leave comments and the post is more likely to do poorly as it'll get bumped down by posts with higher activity. Obviously not everyone uses the activity sort feature, some sort by new, top, or scaled, but since activity is the default most will use that. Especially since it shows posts with the most discussion and activity, the ones most likely to find other people interacting on.

[-] lb_o@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I sometimes comment, just for the sake of comment and to support this community. For example now.

Your post is good!

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I feel like we shouldn't do that or stray off on a tangent, like commenting about comments.

[-] lb_o@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, or even continuing such discussions for no apparent reason, but to feel a bit of the normal human interaction... Or to have fun playing some meta together :3

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Interesting numbers, it would be great to see how the statistics look for different "categories" of communities. Interaction based communities (c/ask X) and political communities will naturally garner more comments than information communities. E.g. while you may enjoy the content of blogs posted on !godot@programming.dev or !programming@programming.dev, you're probably less likely to comment than on !asklemmy@lemmy.world or !casualconversation@lemmy.world

[-] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

I actually plotted the top 50 or so instances, with user size against comments/post. One of the many outlier instances was lemmynsfw.com which obviously lacks all that much engagement, with a score of around 1 c/p. Which makes quite a bit of sense when you think about it.

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