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[-] dumblederp@aussie.zone 20 points 1 week ago

It's not popular in Australia. We mostly still use traditional sms/text. My friends in .uk and .nl complain that I don't have whatsapp but I retort with complaints that they don't use signal.

[-] Burnoutdv@feddit.org 19 points 1 week ago

To my surprise, through recent events, a long standing friend group chat migrated from wa to signal, sure, thats only 7 people but 5 of them installed signal for it which is quite the big step

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago
[-] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago

I did the switch a long time ago, but most people I know still use WhatsApp, even if they use Signal just to talk to me. Actually, I don't think there's a single person I know who just has Signal.

Some people just recently found out that WhatsApp belongs to Facebook and were floored. But not enough to get rid of it. There's even a friend of a friend who refuses to install Signal - even in this political climate, despite being a vocal critic of the USA. Some people are just hypocrites.

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago
[-] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

At least they use Signal to talk to me, and sometimes only me, so that's a good thing. Real homies :)

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

Network effect's a bitch.
99% WhatsApp.

[-] TacticalCheddar@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it's tough work to get people to change. So far I managed to convince my family and a buddy of mine to get Signal and they only did it so they can communicate with me after I told them I won't be using Whatsapp. The vast majority of people told me it's too much of a bother to switch. They know where to find me anyway.

I gave up on the ideea of convincing people to ditch Facebook, Instagram and Tiktok. It's a lost cause.

[-] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago

I have like 10 contacts in Signal and 3 in threema, none of which are close friends or family. Everyone still uses whatsapp. I think it would take something like a big security breach for people to switch. Just the prospect of having your personal data stolen and supporting fascist enablers doesn't seem to be enough.

[-] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago
[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

I do, and I guess most of the people on Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed do as well

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

You do have a good personality!

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 1 week ago

Absolutely none.

[-] p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 week ago

Zero. Stuck on WhatsApp.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

No-one has moved off WhatsApp to Signal, I'd probably encourage them to go to Matrix at this point.

I don't do Facebook, just lurk under a pseudonym so I can follow some groups that only post there.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

Explaining Matrix to new users is pretty hard. Signal looks and feels exactly like WhatsApp though. It's much easier to understand for new users (at least in my experience).

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[-] Flubo@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Here in germany signal is quite common nowadays.

I never had whatsapp. I use signal since 2017/2018. back then i had 3 contacts. At some point there was a big movement away from whatsapp - i think because of their terms oft usw changed?. Sadly most oft my friends first moved to Telegramm cause it was more convenient than signal back then. But with covid and more information on Telegramm most of them shifted to signal. Some of it was my work but many oft them just changed by themself.

Even my large family group with grandmas, Cousins etc. is entirely on signal. All of my friends are. New colleagues are. But this was already before the current movement.

However, whatsapp is still the default in germany. Many of my friends and family have both, signal and whatsapp. And it depends a lot on your bubble. I was lucky with my bubble.

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Thank you for sharing

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 points 1 week ago

Most of them. Family is fully on Matrix/Signal/Threema. Close friends are all on Signal. Some acquaintances are still WA-only, but I've stopped telling people that I have WA/Telegram, so new contacts are Signal/Matrix/Threema only.

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Interesting. How is it with your local neighborhood discussions groups, sports/hobbies clubs, this kind of things? I've noticed those are the most difficult to switch

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 4 points 1 week ago

Hm, I don't have too many of those. The one large one I have was on Signal already, but that's mostly luck.

If it's a >10 people group that has already been established on WA, you're probably out of luck. If a group has not been established yet, your best bet is probably to be super proactive: "Yes, good idea, let's do make a group! Here, I've set up the Singal group, just scan this QR code to join! Oh, you don't have signal? Oh, nevermind, it's super quick to set up, and then you can simply join via the QR! I'd really hate to see you not be part of the group chat, but of course it's up to you if you want to join..."

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

The most recent example I've seen is a group of parents to keep in touch for school daily life.

Your approach is good, but I guess most of the people would be like "Hm, I already have a Whatsapp account, can't we just use that? I'm not that tech savvy"

[-] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, true. I think there's no way around being pushy/almost manipulative.

"I fortunately no longer have WhatsApp. Especially with things concerning our children, I would NOT trust Facebook with that. I am completely open to using something else, does not have to be Signal - do you use any secure and private messenger apps where we can create a group?"

It's an uphill battle for sure. And you have to think about and set your own limits. I hate using WA, but for some contacts, it's better than having NO contact.

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Definitely!

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago

Still got 3 events recently where everything was coordinated on WhatsApp. It's really ingrained in people daily lives

[-] theblips@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

It's trending backwards tbh. Last year I got most of my friends to use Signal, but they for some reason uninstalled en masse this month

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 week ago

WhatsApp has actively been saying it uses the Signal protocol and that they cannot read your messages, the files you send or listen on your calls. It does that on its own Status feature, its blog, channel and even website ads (which worked on tech-illiterate people that can't use an adblocker)

At least in the Netherlands, it's very actively pushing a โ€œYou don't need Signal, just usโ€ message.

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[-] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 4 points 1 week ago

I have very few people not on Signal, but most of my circle is still on Whatsapp either because of work, other friends or family that won't switch.

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

Whatsapp has never been popular where I live afaik.. so never knew anyone who had it

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

Please don't say they use iMessage...

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

Worse, facebook messenger x3

iMessage is iphone? Not seen too many of those either overall tbh

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

That's definitely worse :D

[-] Blaze@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Updated the title ๐Ÿ˜„

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

Well to answer the updated question.. 5 people I keep up with are on facebook messenger :3.. would be like 30, but I no longer chat to ex classmates x3

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 week ago

My work is on WhatsApp using several groups to manage info, my landlord set up a WA group and every tenant is required to be in it, my extended family communicates everything through WA groups, my friends and direct family were on Telegram because of me but then Durov's arrest happened and I don't think I can convince them again, I'm cooked LMAO

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

I'd say around 90% are on Signal.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

WhatsApp, I don't think anyone. It's pretty much inevitable here in Germany. But I've had several friends delete their Facebook and old Twitter accounts during the past months. I don't really know what Apple users do. I wouldn't be surprised if they just keep using iMessage and whatever services are part of Apple's ecosystem. I mean that's kind of why people buy Apple products in the first place.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

100% (of zero, but still). Japan uses LINE primarily which has its own issues, but no one is moving particularly with integrated payment processing and native-level japanese support.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The vast majority of my communication happens in signal thigh I still have whatsapp around for the small cadre of friends I am yet to convince to move over.

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[-] Waldelfe@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately I have just one contact who is actively using signal :(. Everybody else is on Whatsapp.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

I donโ€™t use Google products or services so I have iMessage (along with many of my friends) but oodles of us use signal instead. Iโ€™ve never used Facebook messenger or WhatsApp, I wonโ€™t touch Facebook services.

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

After Meta was changing the rules so they could harvest WhatsApp userโ€™s contacts I convinced my extended family to use Signal. They still use Signal because thatโ€™s the only way to include me however they all use WhatsApp as well.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They use Signal just for you even if they don't use it for themselves? You're not even the only one in this thread that says that.

Some of you know some really nice people!

[-] 211@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

None has moved completely, but two family members and one friend have installed Signal to chat with me. Contacts are ok, people know I don't have WhatsApp and use SMS in stead, but social neighborhood/hobby/association groups won't move and it often leaves me out of the loop unless they remember to toss an email.

[-] aim_at_me@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 week ago

All family. Some friends.

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