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[-] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have noticed a trend of people who think working with the homeless is gonna look like a hallmark card and are shocked and appalled when they get called slurs by a homeless diabetic amputee. Its easy for them to come to the conclusion that these people are homeless because they're assholes. They're right in the sense that most of the more pleasant people never really wind up completely homeless, they can usually find a couch to crash on and a friend's shower to use until they find a new or better job.

But it's also this cycle where having your head shoved back under repeatedly eventually makes you unpleasant so yeah eventually once you start factoring all that trauma you do wind up with somebody who's paranoid, possibly even psychotic related to drug use (tf else are they gonna do with their time? It's not like they're gonna join a pickleball league, and nobody is gonna hire somebody who never showers or has clean clothes, and you need a shitton of calories going into your body to work labor and you can't work labor at all if being unable to afford your metformin got your legs amputated).

So I meet people who volunteer or even come to do paid work in human services and they're like wow I'm helping these people and they cuss me out and yell racial and gendered slurs at me when we're out of turkey sandwiches and I'm just like first of all, learn to appreciate ✨️The Art of The Roast✨️; half the shit these people say is a) true and b) funny asF. And second of all, I know damn well nobody told you to come work in this field for high pay and low stress so we can tell people all we want that we deserve more pay and more staffing and more resources but we all know that ain't coming any time soon so until then if your plan is to sit around complaining then do us all a favor and just leave because you're stressing the rest of us out and we have work to do.

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

take it from him

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I'm surprised he chose to express his point in this manner. Unless this is an expression of humanity from Mr Musk that we're so otherwise unaccustomed to that it's hard to recognise, then I assume he wants to persuade people to have less empathy or sympathy for homeless people, not more. This statement, taken at face value would seem to suggest that contrary to what some may think, homeless people are facing significant challenges not of their own making that have contributed directly to their circumstances.

I'm going to guess that's not how he meant it

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Says the homeless illegal.immigrant from a apartheid

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Even taking his bullshit argument at face value, he thinks the best solution for these violent drug addicts is to leave them out of the street? Who is the audience here? If you literally think they are all violent, why is leaving them free to roam around the right solution?

I know it's all about money and grandstanding on his part but this definitely seems like some under-the-influence kind of deep thoughts.

[-] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

his post is factually incorrect, of course.

https://adcare.com/addiction-demographics/homeless-population/

"homeless" is a term used to describe someone who does not live inside a domicile, 40-60% of all homeless people have and hold down jobs.

[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's two types of homeless people. Temporary or chronically. The percentage of chronically homeless who are drug addicts, severely mentally ill, or both (self medication) is around 60-80 (this can vary largely by area).

That's not to say that drug addicts and severely mentally ill people don't need help, but it's like people want to pretend that they don't exist because they make addressing the homeless issue way more complicated, because at a certain point you have to talk about involuntarily committing people to mental asylums.

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