fair point! I forgot I was posting a comment in the budget audiophile community :). Still, looking at the sound quality/price ratio, they are up there. If you can find a pair second hand, well taken care of these should last a loooong time. I also have a pair of version 1 since 2017 that I got half price at the time. version 1 had a design issue and kef replaced the electronics for free in 2018 or so. I have them paired with a raspberry pi + hifi berry card in the family room. Looks like they will last a lifetime.