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Berlin’s immigration authorities are moving to deport four young foreign residents on allegations related to participation in protests against Israel’s war on Gaza, an unprecedented move that raises serious concerns over civil liberties in Germany.

The deportation orders, issued under German migration law, were made amid political pressure and over internal objections from the head of the state of Berlin’s immigration agency.

The internal strife arose because three of those targeted for deportation are citizens of European Union member states who normally enjoy freedom of movement between E.U. countries. None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Germany has a disgusting government.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Albert Einstein is 100% correct.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Israel applying pressure on Germany.

[-] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

Israel the kings of the world?

Nah if the USA gets blamed (deserved) Germany gets fucking blamed (also deserved as the original fucking Nazis they shouldn’t have been forgiven, either).

[-] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Germany, no....

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 144 points 1 week ago

If you search for it, its only reported by two outlets. There is not a single German newspaper reporting this, including left wing or Berlin regional ones. Searching for the names in the articles returns no results linked to Berlin or Free Palestine at all. The name of the public official also turns up nothing.

Could be misinformation.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Already addressed this elsewhere so pasting the same comment; It is possible the American student contacted TheIntercept first. If TheIntercept is the first source then German media will likely pick up the story soon.

I also searched for the lawyer

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

Alexander Gorski is the same person who overturned Ghassan Abu-Sittah's ban from Germany which does lend a lot of credibility unless TheIntercept is straight up making up quotes from people out of thin air.

The International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) announced in a social media post on Tuesday that it, along with lawyer Alexander Gorski and the European Legal Support Centre, had successfully challenged the travel ban imposed on Abu Sitta by Germany.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 20 points 1 week ago

That's fair, but then again the Intercept is a pretty reputable site and the story seems legit.

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[-] IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 1 week ago

I fucking hate the timeline we're living in

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago

Fash support fash. Germany has been supporting genocide for a long time.

It's really amazing how liberals will completely accept genocide up until the very second that it affects them.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 week ago

It is heart breaking to see Germany begin to give in to fascism again. What happened to "never again!" ???

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 week ago

Just yesterday people were cheering up germany government for rearming for war and everyone arguing against it was being downvoted.

https://lemmy.world/post/27602242

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[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

Fucking disgusting.

[-] asg101 48 points 1 week ago

International law: Conducting and Support of Genocide is Illegal.

U.S./Germany law: Protesting Genocide is Illegal.

[-] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The challenge lies in the fact that criticism of Israel is often intertwined with accusations of anti-Semitism. Germany finds itself in a delicate position: on one hand, it has pledged unwavering support to the state of Israel; on the other hand, it must uphold the right to dissent and allow protests against Israeli policies.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Choosing between an incredibly bad lie to commit genocide and not committing genocide must be a hard choice for Germany, knowing their history and regret for their previous genocide

No wait, Germany is supporting genocide again.

"Germany has pledged unwavering support to a genocidal colonial apartheid" really is not the own Germans think it is.

[-] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 days ago

The world is far too nuanced to be categorized as merely good or evil, as you suggest. Following the atrocities of the Holocaust during World War II, Germany has assumed a profound moral and political obligation to safeguard and support the state of Israel, a commitment that remains a cornerstone of its foreign policy.

Yes, Germany has expressed strong support for Israel during the ongoing conflict, primarily through diplomatic efforts and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nuance for genocide what is next nuance for Adolf Hitler? "Well he did kill all those Jews but you have to remember he was denied his art education!"

Here is a good rule to live by:

Genocide bad.

[-] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 2 points 6 days ago

Nobody has ever suggested that genocide is a good thing; that is an argument you introduced yourself. Furthermore, you alleged that Germany supports genocide without elaborating on how this claim is substantiated.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

No more replies from mr. Bothsidism what happened? I read your vomit and when shit gets serious you don’t reply anymore? We are all waiting your defence for a genocidal ethnostate. Please elaborate.

[-] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

What is the point of an answer if no one is interested in engaging with it? The thread merely serves as an echo chamber for your opinion. Judging by the responses, meaningful discourse on the topic appears unwelcome.

[-] dan00@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

I’m interested and I’m also pretty fed up seeing people defending Israel, USA and Germany (but many others too) WHILE PEOPLE ARE DYING in this moment.

3,000 portable anti-tank weapons, 500,000 rounds of ammunition for fully and semi-automatic firearms as well as other fuses and propellants. Much of the over €300 million was spent on armored vehicles, military trucks and safety glass.

Is this the humanitarian aid you blabber about? So yes, your argument is unwelcome and you need to know that. Don’t agree? Then please explain.

[-] 404UsernameNotFound@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

The original post reads, "Germany Turns to U.S. Playbook: Deportations Target Gaza War Protesters." This statement is inaccurate; it represents a misleading portrayal. Many participants in this thread seem unconcerned about whether the statement is true or merely aligns with their perception of the situation. I don’t see why I should continue engaging with the post if it solely serves as an echo chamber for a predetermined opinion.

[-] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

Why should anyone give a fuck about that?

[-] jagermo@feddit.org 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have some notes on that. 3 of the 4 are EU citizens, that makes deportations highly complicated. I also can't find another source, ~~and the intercept has a history of pushing some shady things.~~ Something feels off.

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[-] amino 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

looks like German libs are doing the Kamala speedrun.

it's not a coincidence they went after trans immigrants first, they know it's easy to use us as guinea pigs for setting legal precedent.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure Kamala, being a private citizen and not the president, has nothing to do with the deportations taking place in America right now.
I'd check who the current president is and assign blame to him.

[-] amino 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

sure, if you wanna do a dog-shit ahistorical analysis of what lead to this, you could place the blame entirely on Trump.

do you seriously expect us to ignore the direct parallel between the Democrats adopting fascist rhetoric and deportations and the social Democrats in Germany adopting AfD propaganda in their program?

you either didn't pay attention when she threw us under the bus to win the fascist electorate or You actively cheered her on as she was doing it. same for her being a rabid Zionist.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

If those EU citizens take it to EU court they’d probably win very easily. Can’t just take away freedom of movement, one of the tenets of the Union, without any due process. Seriously fuck the German politicians who pressured for this. Guess fascism is making a return, didn’t even need the AfD for that.

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