Google debuts a new way to watermark AI-generated images (www.axios.com)

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Google's DeepMind unit is unveiling today a new method it says can invisibly and permanently label images that have been generated by artificial intelligence.

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[+] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

You heard of stable difusion? They got 1 line installs nowadays then all you have to enter is a prompt and go.

Entirely open source so anyone could improve the model or not, and it'd be more than legal to release a non watermarked version (if a watermarked version even ever appeared).

I saw down the chain it was compared to deuvono, which I'd argue is a bad analogy - cause whos gonna run a rootkit on their PC just to create an image, especially when there's a million options not to (unlike games which are generally unique)

[-] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I see what you mean yes, but of course such large resources are required to train the model - not run it. So reasonably as long as a bunch of users can pool resources to compete with big tech, there will always be an 'un-watermark-able' crowd out there, making all the watermakrs essentially useless because they only got half the picture.

And how training these models works is insanely parallel, so reasonably - if (ideally a FOSS) project pops up allowing users to donate cpu time to train the model as a whole - users could actually have more computational power than the big tech companies

[-] cybirdman@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

TBF, I don't think the purpose of this watermark is to prevent bad people for passing AI as real. It would be a welcome side-effect but that's not why google wants this. Ultimately this is supposed to prevent AI training data from being contaminated with other AI generated content. You could imagine if the data set for training contains a million images generated with previous models having mangled fingers and crooked eyes, it would be hard to train a good AI out of that. Garbage in, garbage out.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

So theoretically, those of us who put original images online could add this invisible watermark to make AI models leave our stuff out of their "steal this" pile?

[-] cybirdman@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Yea actually, that has a good "taste your own medecine" vibe

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I’m not sure that’s the case. For instance, a lot of smaller local models leverage GPT4 to generate synthetic training data, which drastically improves the model’s output quality. The issue comes in when there is no QC on the model’s output. The same applies to Stable Diffusion.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Its invisibility should really help all the laypeople see it clearly.

[-] djmarcone@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Spoiler - they will secretly have all humans in ai generated art have slightly messed up hands.

Mind blown!

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