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Fly in fly trap:
I thought flies use ZZ for the onomatopoeia
So ZQ comes from the sound of a fly being swatted?
But if you accidentally typed a or i, press ESC first.
The best thing about Vim is that despite having all the features of a modern IDE it starts in 0.1s and you can start editing right away while the code data is loading asynchronously.
The worst thing about Vim is that... just kidding, there's nothing bad about it.
Vscode I'm always like all right let's code... Ah shit, the "what's new" window has popped up again in the middle of my typing...
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0.1s is way too long, you need to optimize your startup time. /s
There also IDEs that start instantly.
They don't ship a whole browser though.
People meme about “q!” but it is super helpful to have that extra step, because sometimes your fingers are moving faster than your brain is. That quick switch back-n-forth vim - gcc - ./a.out loop and my probably ADHD mean that vim saying, “hey, remember you haven’t saved this yet” is a godsend.
You are right about the best part about vim - you can work as fast you type.
It’s a trade off for sure. I think the area editors like Vim totally win in is when you need to ssh into a server and edit something. I think it will always exist because of this use case
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I remapped the power button of my computer to whatever that series of keypresses is that exits vim.
That's really smart. That way if I ever figure out the command to exit Vim, it'll behave the same as my current method (powering off the PC.)
Do you mean Neovim?
Surely you aren't comparing a flat text editor to an IDE that has language server support, debuggers and refactoring tools?
Vim and VS Code are both text editors that can become IDEs with plugins. You can use vim with language servers if you want, as there are plugins for it.
Thanks, I wasn't aware of that!
Makes sense though. Vim plugins exist so anything is possible. Neovim having native support for LSP and DAP makes it a lot easier though.
I only use butterfly flaps that move magnetic needles next to my HDD.
Like a real programmer would.
I do the same with moths as they are more active at night
You need a bigger lämp brøther!
Emacs with evil mode
Ah! I loved using Doom EMacs for a while!
… but alas I came back to my initial love with Neovim 😜
So kind of off topic. Like 15 years ago emacs vs vim split in engineering was like 50-50. Now I see more like like 90-10 with vim winning. What happened? I always assumed they are equivalent more or less.
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Wouldn't the one that ops you into telemetry be the trap?
vscodium slightly better than vscode tho.
honestly all ide's are rubbish - especially electron ones. for a gui editor, i've just gone back to sublime text and have never been happier.
Tbf codium is a very well optimized electron app. Don't believe me? Try discord
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Vim and VScode are my favorite code editors but I admit that Vim is better :]
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vim was such an unimaginable improvement over nano for doing stuff on linux servers. Having an in-shell-editor search-and-replace function alone is worth everything you have to do to learn vim.
And after I was comfortable around vim because of all the "training" on servers, I just switched to vim fulltime. No more GUI editor for me!
It's wild to me that people that people use VIM in professional software development settings (especially front end).
Like, I get it if you're a sysadmin who's spending all day in command lines and ssh terminals, but when you're working on high level, user facing software, it's just absurd to have the mindset that a command line interface will be better than a command line interface + a graphical interface.
GUI || command line, objectively provides you with more UX tools and ways of presenting data and interactions to the user, than just command line. Everything you can do in VIM, you can do in VSCode running VIM in a terminal, but not the other way around.
Maybe it's because I got my start programming 3d modelling software, but there are fundamentally things that command lines are bad at representing.
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Helix tho
There's no way to emote it, but you know when those old Italian ladies spit at people to keep the evil away from themselves? I just did that in your general direction...
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You will be tempted to think that by learning how to use (neo)VIM your coding skills will magically improve tenfold.
It won't
Wait really? Shit I’m like 1 year into learning vim. What editor should I switch to that will magically make me a good coder?
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Though I use neovim as a text editor, Zed is my IDE of choice. I think it’s a good alternative for most people that don’t like Electron-based applications.
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