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[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Kids were killed but the chat leak was funny and that's what has been the people talk about instead.

Imagine being the poor family, who is stuck living in Yemen because they cannot afford to relocate, whose kid has died by Trump's bombing. Then all you see in the news about how they joked with emojis in chat killing your kid. "Oh your kid was killed in that emoji airstrike." Tell me why the fuck you would grow up anything but radicalized.

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[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 days ago

No one is surprised by America indiscriminately bombing and leaving 150 casualties.

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[-] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago
[-] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 141 points 6 days ago

Are you actually asking?

The Houthi's are an Iranian controlled terrorist organization that have been attacking commercial shipping in the Red Sea since November 2023.

The Houthis have sunk two vessels and killed four crew members, forcing a lot of shipping to Europe to be diverted around the South of Africa.

The US and allies have been fighting the Iranian-backed Houthis for over a decade, this is just a recent resurgence following the war in Israel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67614911.amp

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 44 points 6 days ago

Sure bro.

That justified blowing up the apartment building the target's girlfriend lived in.

Because it doesn't just make more Houthis every time.

[-] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago

I never said the attack itself was justified. I only answered the question.

A more targeted strike was possible, and it's reprehensible that one was not chosen.

The target himself was a legal target even by the most strict interpretation of armed conflict international law.

[-] Iceman@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Claiming that the Houtis are Iranian controlled is sheer missinformation.

[-] Sop 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The Houthi’s are enforcing their ban on ships headed to or from Israel to enter Yemen’s water territory. They did this as a sanction on Israel because Israel is committing genocide on the Palestinian people. When the US and European countries started bombing Yemen for enforcing their law, they also banned US and some European ships from entering their waters. During the ceasefire they lifted the blockade, and since Israel ended the ceasefire they started banning ships again.

[-] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

This is simply false.

The Houthis are not a state. There are a rebel faction in a civil war in Yemen.

Even if it were the Yemen government banning ships from it's waters it's can't do that by international law. They don't own the whole strait.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bab-el-Mandeb

Lastly, a UN resolution passed that outlaws this behavior.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2722

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[-] Literocola@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago

They’re bombing the Houthi’s in Yemen because the Houthis have been launching Iranian missiles at ships in the Red Sea since 2023? Including the US navy (don’t touch the boats) and Israel. The houthis are currently holding hostage a number of crews of merchant ships

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The amount of times Republicans said “we killed terrorists” during the congressional hearing, without even once considering that the 53 fatalities from an indiscriminate air strike likely included innocent civilians, is revolting.

[-] Sop 46 points 6 days ago

With US track record a majority if not all of those 53 people were civilians

[-] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

This is why the US and Israel get along so famously 👍

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Houthis are the only international actor acting in open military opposition to the genocide in Gaza. They are doing their best to enforce a shipping blockade pending a cessation of Israeli war crimes. The US obviously wants the genocide to continue, as well as all shipping trade through the area.

[-] Panamalt@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 days ago

Both are really serious problems in their own right, one's just a little closer to home

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 40 points 6 days ago

For me at this point it's just a matter of surprise.

I expect the US to bomb everywhere that isn't Japan, North America, European Union, or Israel

Hell I'm shocked they aren't throwing bombs at Australia because Elon Musk sent a vaguely worded email that implied it.

The reason why I SEEM to care more about the phones than the bombs, is because "US bombing innocent people? Sounds like a Tuesday... but damn how did we elect someone so incompetent that I find out about the specifics?"

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[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 18 points 5 days ago

The MAGA movement have no care about what the administration does, especially when it comes to non-americans in a country literally none of them coudl identify on a map. But if you show them "look how poorly this bombing was planned and carried out" then maybe they will listen.

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[-] mydude@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago

The bombing of Yemen is bipartisan...

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Anything to keep israel happy is bipartisan.

Then you wonder why that the case? If they are right now publicly intervening in US politics, what have they done in the past and what leverage do they have over these public figure?

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[-] riptide@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

They leveled a building to hit 1 target

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Zero surprise.

The dems have always supported genocide very openly.

These memes about the "leak" represent the only principles that they have - violent support for the procedures of the status quo.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

So, exactly how far does Trump have to go for you to admit that "BoTh siDEs Are ThE samE" didn't work?

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[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Political context courtesy of the Arab Center in Washington DC:


TL;DR: The Houthis are backed by Iran, in direct regional competition to Saudi Arabian (and subsequently US) interests, and the war in Yemen is a direct result of 10 years worth of failed intervention by the Saudis.


Excerpt:

Exactly a decade ago, Saudi Arabia announced the launch of a military intervention in Yemen, promising to lead a coalition of more than 10 nations—although some would later end their participation—against the Houthi armed group, officially known as Ansar Allah, that had taken over power from President Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi. Backed by the United States, Britain, and other Western states with arms and shared intelligence, on March 26, 2015, the Saudi coalition commenced airstrikes on Houthi-controlled areas, initiating a conflict that would drag on for years. Riyadh’s initial expectation of a swift, six-week military operation to defeat the Houthis became a prolonged and costly entanglement that has tested Saudi Arabia’s ability to impose its will on its neighbor and to force the Houthis to give up their control over a large part of Yemen. Intervention Inception

Saudi Arabia’s rationale for intervention shifted over time as the conflict unfolded. At the outset, it cast the intervention as a direct response to President Hadi’s urgent appeal to the Gulf states and their international allies that he conveyed in a letter to the UN Security Council in March 2015. Hadi called for states “to provide immediate support in every form and take the necessary measures, including military intervention, to protect Yemen and its people from the ongoing Houthi aggression.” The Saudis initially conceived of the intervention as a decisive effort to reinstate Yemen’s legitimate government in the capital Sanaa. As the situation progressed, Saudi Arabia reframed its objective as restoring Yemen’s political process within the framework of the Gulf Cooperation Council Initiative, which in 2011-2012 facilitated the transfer of power from former President Ali Abdullah Saleh to Hadi.

The core rationale behind Saudi Arabia’s intervention, however, stemmed from its perception of the Houthis as an Iranian proxy on the kingdom’s border. Riyadh feared that Iran’s influence through the Houthis posed a direct threat to the kingdom’s regional dominance and interests. The kingdom saw the Houthi takeover of Sanaa not just as a challenge to Yemen’s stability but as a potential game changer in the broader Middle East power dynamics. In this context, Saudi Arabia framed its military intervention as a necessary response to protect its own security and regional influence.

Riyadh feared that the Houthis posed a direct threat to the kingdom’s regional dominance and interests.

But while Saudi Arabia believed Iran to be the principal force behind the Houthi takeover, the extent of Iranian influence over the group at the time was, in fact, relatively limited. Although the Houthis depended on Iranian military and logistical support, particularly for weaponry and strategic advice, they were not fully under Iran’s control. Iran, while capable of advising the Houthis on strategic and policy matters, lacked the leverage to dictate their actions. Rather, local factors such as longstanding tribal rivalries in Yemen, the Houthis’ longtime opposition to the central government, and their pursuit of greater political power, were more influential in shaping the Houthis’ behavior. The Houthi alliances with former President Saleh and certain factions of the Yemeni military also played a crucial role in the group’s rise. In other words, Iran’s influence was significant, but it was not all-encompassing, as the Houthis had their own political and strategic goals. Nonetheless, Riyadh persisted in portraying the Houthis as a tool of Iranian expansionism. Paradoxically, Saudi Arabia’s prolonged antagonism may have ultimately strengthened Iran’s influence, as it pushed the Houthi armed group to deepen its reliance on Iranian military and logistical support.


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[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 38 points 6 days ago

Because it is controlled by the Houthis, Islamist terrorists threatening global trade, overthrowing a quasi-friendly government and REINSTITUTING SLAVERY.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The United States government just sold over 200 people, without trial, into slavery in El Salvador. And the US explicitly allows slavery as part of its own prison system. The US has a large number of legal slaves.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 20 points 6 days ago

They overthrew Gaddafi when he was the only thing preventing slavery from returning, and the allies of the West now have open slave markets in Libya.

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[-] Washedupcynic@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago

The Houthis, is a Zaydi Shia Islamist political and military organization that emerged from Yemen in the 1990s. It is predominantly made up of Zaydi Shias, with their namesake leadership being drawn largely from the Houthi tribe. The group has been a central player in Yemen's civil war, drawing widespread international condemnation for its human rights abuses, including targeting civilians and using child soldiers. The Houthis are backed by Iran. The Houthis emerged as an opposition movement to Yemen president Ali Abdullah Saleh, whom they accused of corruption and being backed by Saudi Arabia and the United States.

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[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

I've heard it called Operation Amazon Prime, which is pretty hilarious. But only like 10% of global trade even goes by this area, even less of you're just considered direct US trade. Combine that with the context from that Signal chat and it's clear they bombed Yemen just because Trump wants to.

[-] Fredthefishlord 16 points 6 days ago

"only" 10%? 10% is pretty significant

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 days ago

Bush and Obama did it too. Historically, it's been a targeted killing thing against Al-Qaeda (or so they have said), with whatever government they have, giving their blessing. If other sites are correct, Trump did it more, but it's kinda hard to pick nits there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Yemen

That's why a lot people are more upset over the lack of operational security than the action itself. They're not conducting themselves in a way that keeps our country safe, They skirting monitoring and can't even get that right.

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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

They're brown and poor and our country is deep in the arms trade.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The Signal chat "leak" was 100% arranged and intentional. Every person in that group was typing full copy-edited paragraphs like they were on reddit, not a chat room. They added one of the most conservative and compliant voices in the "liberal" press and somehow nobody in that small group noticed. And then he left to break the story as soon as he could instead of remaining a fly on the wall as long as possible like any real journalist worth their salt would.

Nah man, this was a little stage play to make this cabinet look like tough guys carefully making hard choices. To soften any public backlash against them bombing civilian buildings to rubble without congress even declaring war. I wouldn't trust a damn thing that Jeff Goldberg pens.

And to be honest? If I'm right, this is maybe the most competent op that the Trump II admin has pulled off so far.

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

Hard disagree. If you read the signal transcripts, it sounded like frat boys planning a bombing run.. highly unprofessional.

I think it's also a good idea to state this is your opinion, and is not, in fact, "100% arranged and intentional". We don't need more misinformation spread around.

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[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

They are bombing Yemen, because the houthis are attacking our boats. Transportation ships. Never fuck with US international commerce.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

Why are houthis attacking our boats?

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago

And why did they stop for seven weeks?

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[-] grepe@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

opens a post with question in the title that is lamenting that news don't give any real answers and focus just on "trump bad" story.

all top comments are just "trump bad" and "all bad government" and has to scroll deep down to find an actual answer to the question posted.

leaves understanding much better why news don't focus on context and give just emotional side stories.

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[-] Davin@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

The bombing is worse, but using signal instead of official communication channels is still really fucking serious. They want to plan and commit war crimes and avoid any responsibility for it by trying to keep it from ever getting under public scrutiny.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 20 points 6 days ago

One way to look at it: Yemen's current conflict is a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Put it another way, it's their Vietnam

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Because they couldn't fight back

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