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[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Lol I'm sorry but these people are idiots. Who shills for rich corporations and lives a happy life?

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~rich~~ corporations

Reddit never has made a profit. So... they're not rich.

I'm not sure that shilling for a poor corporation makes things much better though.

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Lol. They feel very strongly.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

IDK man, I want to understand them but I can't.

[-] TOUnail@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Just looked at some of those accounts and they're less than 2 years old. My guess is, they never used anything other than the official app so to them, nothing will change. Honestly, let reddit keep those users. I'd rather have a conversation with someone who doesn't have the attention span of a TikTok user.

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[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Omg me too. I know they are just human, and are susceptible to the same crap logic I am, but I can't put myself there. My only thought, is that they just don't know. The more you know, the harder you have to work, to maintain some kind of engagement in your life to feed the monster you created in your head. These people are fine floating, and tbh, I envy them AND pity them simultaneously.

[-] justhach@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

"This thing does not affect me directly, so clearly its everyone else who is overreacting."

[-] johnthebeboptist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Except it literally does affect them, they're literally the ones throwing tantrums and whining about how mods and others ruined the subs, without a hint of irony.

[-] matt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is how most protests or strikes go in real life too.

When a protest negatively affects someone, it is the fault of the one(s) who directly caused the effect, rather than those that caused people to protest in the first place.

If you think broad enough, you can see the parallels to things like public transport strikes or other forms of protest.

[-] lixus98@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I'm just glad this type of people will remain on reddit, don't try to convince them to come here lol. Let them stay in that shitty place, it's perfect for shitty people

[-] lividhen@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

TIL: You can have an animated profile

[-] spaceduck@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Like it or not in order for a site to grow you have to take in normies.

[-] androogee@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Endless growth for the sake of growth is not the goal.

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

These type of people can stay on Reddit for all I care. Just like how all the racist conspiracy boomers stayed on Facebook and similar things happen with Twitter right now as well.

[-] LillianVS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Lol, gone full time Lemmy now. I do not miss Reddit! Let them have the Reddit they want. The corpo Reddit under spez, the kind of guy who doesn't care about the user, just the bags of money he sleeps on at night.

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It is so cringe to defend CEOs.

[-] Miriadis@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I was shocked at the reaction of r/lotrmemes. They seem to have really gone the extra mile to mock and stop the protests.

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[-] kwot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's gotta be bots influencing those votes, right? Like damn

[-] kratoz29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's the only outcome I'd accept.

[-] Spellbind8558@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just a sign of where Reddit has gone over the several years and who the main audience is.

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[-] RandomWombat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I meant to ask, why do I get the feeling there is some concentrated effort to try to downplay those people trying to protest?
I see some of the threads on the subs doing the 'alternative protests', and some comments were downvoted massively just for joining in or showing support.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They're are a large number of people that give a crap about anyone else. They use the reddit app and site and dgaf if API gets boned because it "doesn't affect them". Well, this affects them, and they're pissed because they see it as other reditors that caused it.

[-] Thade780@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

My guess: a contrarian attitude. Though do not underestimate the effect of concentrated, sheer selfishness. They can't get to see content that they used to, and despite not creating it themselves, or doing ANYTHING other than consuming it, they feel entitled to access it, as if it were "theirs". So if a user chooses to delete their own, personal content, then you should consider "their" feelings (the whiners I mean, over & above that of the content creator). In short, you are thinking of their responses as containing "logic", and attempting to rationally process it as such, but it is not! Instead it is emotional, venting language. It's similar to the "she's asking for it" thinking - in that NO SHE'S DEFINITELY NOT, but that doesn't matter to the person saying that...

Also, the person offering it could legit & literally be an actual child, but whether that's true physically or merely emotionally, it helps if you think of it that way.

I should add that some subs - probably very few but I don't know the details - have legit complaints lobbied against them: like they did a poll, the VAST majority of their users said no, the mod team also unanimously said NO among respondents, but then a senior mod popped in and YES blacked out the entire sub anyway. So the truth is sometimes complicated by nuances like that. I've heard justification types of excuses blowing such real events out of proportion as if that is the only type of scenario that ever occurs. (Though again, for those with a... loose affiliation with facts, such details are only tools to bludgeon your opponents with, rather than food for thoughtful consideration. It is entirely up to you to not be swayed by thus though - they aren't offering to not make such comments in the first place, so you have to choose how you will deal with them.)

[-] AgentGoldfish@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They can’t get to see content that they used to, and despite not creating it themselves, or doing ANYTHING other than consuming it, they feel entitled to access it, as if it were “theirs”.

I completely agree with you.

I was a mod on an advice sub (that I recreated over here), and people would message modmail after posting and say "why is no one commenting on my post". Like, you aren't entitled to free advice, you're asking for it. But people would get legitimately angry whenever they wouldn't get any advice, or if the advice they got wasn't what they were looking for.

The thing that made me the most angry were the people who would delete their post after getting advice. Like people wrote comments for everyone to read, not just for you, and then you go and defacto make those comments private?

I fully believe that audience of people does not understand that they aren't the center of the universe and that there are actual people on the other end of comments...

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[-] syphe@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It's odd, most subs I frequented had votes to go dark, so majority supported the decision, wonder if it's now the folks that remain are the minority that voted against the blackouts

[-] iamsgod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

yeah, one forum I frequented has some people focusing on some bad action from some mods, even tho in the grand scheme it's a nothingburger

[-] Houdini@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Let the bootlickers stay behind. Let them delight in the milquetoast conservative snore-fest of mediocrity that waits them. Let them turn Reddit into Quora. Fuck 'em all.

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[-] 0uterzenith@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oof seeing this just makes me miss Sync for Reddit... Ljdawson, if you read this, Sync for Lemmy pls

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don’t feel to bad, %99 of reddit is bots pushing an agenda especially when u/spez bank feels a little light

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[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

@kratoz29

Some people are annoyed that mods took their dopamine away while protesting reddit.

is withdrawal syndrome.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I probably wouldn't trust any vote counts on Reddit about this subject.

[-] someacnt_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
[-] StugStig@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

First they removed the /.compact old mobile view, I did not speak out since I had already moved on to using RiF.

3 months later...

Once the heat dies down, they'll be coming for RES and the old. desktop view.

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[-] Doggylife@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

As someone who has 0 modding experience on Reddit. I'm assuming the third party apps (Apollo, Rif etc.) Are the apps that mods use daily to moderate. But I don't think many people understand that and it's never said when people make this argument.

I think it's the same with accessibility but I'm not too sure. Cause Reddit said they're allowing non commercial apps which provide accessability free rein on the API (bar nsfw posts). But I think a lot of blind people use conventional third party apps which work with their phones text to speech. But I've never seen this argument made.

[-] raktheundead@fosstodon.org 2 points 1 year ago

@Doggylife: My understanding is that third-party Reddit moderating tools tend to trend more towards more sophisticated automoderators and the like. Although that having been said, the core moderating tools on Reddit are not great even on desktop and they're abysmal on the official app.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Brands and corporations provide consumers with something they want and in return the consumers give the brand total loyalty and devotion. It doesn't matter if the brand engages in anticompetitive practices, it doesn't matter if the brand engages in predatory practices, it doesn't matter if the brand is actively harming the consumer, so long as the consumer is being provided with something they desire. It's gotten so bad that many brands have a cult like following.

[-] crib@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Its understandable that (some) people have this view, they just want to enjoy the content they are used to.
But what I think they are missing is that there are a lot of people that put in a lot of effort in making free content to everyone else, and when a large group of the contributors are upset then this user's "free content" gets worse.
As a user you just have to accept that everyone will not have the same view as you and move on to another place where you can look at funny pictures or whatever.

[-] gk99@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I mean the funny thing to me is that this guy is just an idiot. This is r/piracy we're talking about, they're pirates. A decentralized and low-key forum like this is exactly where they should want to be, not on one of the world's five biggest websites just posting freely on main.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Nope, this doesn't surprise me anymore.

A good percentage of people don't stop at merely licking the boot, but actually deepthroat the entire leg.

[-] Mirror_I_rorrIMG@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This is actually good for the internet as a whole. The only people left on reddit are going to be scum. It will be like Australia when Britain used to send its worst criminals there lol. Everyone besides them is leaving reddit to make the same communities elsewhere without these types of people ruining the mood.

Reddit has become so toxic over the last couple of years, I have yet to see that level of toxicity on these other sites even with the great migration, but maybe I haven't been around long enough.

[-] FiendishFork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I’m baffled as to how anyone would believe any of the public assurances Reddit has made at this point. No one has the ability to hold them accountable to any of their promises so they’ll just quietly never implement them.

[-] zikk_transport2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Not surprised. It's like going to Facebook and spreading information about how vaccines save lives. You will be downvoted to hell lol.

Any decent person has already left Reddit or still there observing the shitshow. Those who tries to comment (and defend Reddit) are literally the remaining idiots. They probably also have Facebook and spend another 50% time there arguing about "Biden bad Trump good".

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