You gotta do, what you gotta do!
Thanks as always for the hard work and transparency.
Thank you for the kindness!
I hope you guys are doing okay having to see all that shit.. No shame in reaching out to mental health professionals. Makes me sad imagining you guys picking up emotional baggage and trauma having to see all that to protect the community.
I appreciate you guys looking out for us, but I hope you all have proper support yourselves.
Whew, I'm glad I got in before this or my fellow homo sapiens might not have noticed I was also a fellow homo sapiens like them and definitely not a robot.
You’re clearly a Mollusc
How dare you! I am no mere mollusc, I am a proud Todarodes pacificus and definitely not a robot squid.
OK BUT WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING
No place is safe from this, unfortunately. I moderated 2 big brazilian subreddits, and then decided to volunteer to help a smaller one. I had a day (and to be honest, an entire week) absolutely ruined when somebody did indeed set a bot to post large amounts of CSAM to the subreddit. Luckily I was online to quickly purge it all, and Reddit's admins did remove the accounts pretty much instantly, but I feel for every Lemmy admin that even caught a glimpse of this material and now have to purge their computers and honestly, their minds, from that. Sorry to hear it happened.
CSAM
I just looked up this acronym and am sorry I did.
Same but not sorry. I always called it CP but I guess this is more of a straight forward name.
Yeah, the term CP (Child Porn) has always been a terrible name for it. It sounds weird, but "Child Porn" sounds much less dramatic than it is, like some sort of fringe porn. Meanwhile CSAM (Child Sexual Abuse Material) make it a lot more clear that there is a child being abused.
Same, and to make sure no one else has to have it in their search history, CSAM stands for “Child Sexual Abuse Material.”
Hope it restricts the attack surface, why do people have to be such knobs
Not wanting to be too conspiratorial, but it isn't necessarily people simply doing this out of the badness of their hearts. The fediverse is a disruptive platform and there are many parties with deep pockets that might happily funnel a little bit of cash to certain consultancies in certain countries to stop things and add friction to this platform before it really takes off. Nothing like a little bit of corporate sabotage!
That sounds exactly like the badness in people’s hearts though.
The alt right instance has been fucking with world since they were defederated...
This is something right up their alley, so the simplest solution is they're doing it.
Come on people, Lemmy's user base is what, a few hundred thousand? A million tops? Which "parties with deep pockets" is this disrupting? The Lemmy userbase is a rounding error on the number of users of other popular social medias.
"Don't want to be too conspiratorial, but let me continue to drop a ridiculous conspiracy with no evidence"
And big corp wants to smother it before it’s bigger. It perfectly makes sense. It’s so much more difficult to kill a service/movement when it’s already widely adopted and popular. Identifying small, new players in the field and disrupting those takes very few resources for them, a rounding error, if you will.
The fediverse has the potential to be a threat to some big corps out there, and Lemmy is just one speck in a sea of a lot of specks. Together those specks are growing the fediverse, and the only way to disrupt it is to get rid of those specks.
Good call. Thank you for doing what you need to do to support the site and protect the users as necessary. And as always, the honesty and transparency is appreciated.
Looks like even this place couldn't keep it up. Unfortunate. Thanks admins for the transparency though.
I think it's the right call honestly. We've grown so quick that it must be hard to manage by now.
Thanks for all the work you do! It isn’t unappreciated.
Hope it helps with the recent abuse.
https://github.com/bumble-tech/private-detector
Do you guys think this could help? I remembered reading bumble open sourced their image detection system.
If you could give me the numbers of new accounts monthly I would look into CloudFlare. If I can afford it I will even pay for it.
I don't blame you for taking that decision. But it's sad that this will deter legitimate users away, some of whom would've signed up otherwise.
I guess I'm out of the loop, perhaps because I mostly browse communities I subscribed to, but...
What happened? Lots of spammy bots signing up and spamming the site? I guess I didn't notice where I was looking
Also, what does application based sign up mean?
Anyhow, Lemmy.World and Lemmy (in general) are growing nicely, so what's needed to defend them is cool.
Edit: fixed grammar
Troll / spam accounts posted CSAM in !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world. That spread with federation and every admin ended up involuntarily hosting such content.
Application based sign up means that if a user wants to subscribe they have to fill out a form and a .world admin gets to review it and approve or reject their sign up. It's a measure of controlling who gets in and limiting the amount of bots and possibly troll that join an instance.
To make it clear, the form is virtually the same as before with one additional question. It just asks you to state you read the note that is the same as the note in the post above. The application is virtually identical beyond that. But, the biggest difference, is like you said, an admin needs to approve it.
Is image posting temporarily turned off for lemmy.world users too?
Since last night, I've been unable to post (tested in memes@lemmy.world, memes@lemmy.ml, and lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world). Switched to an alt account on a different instance and had no issue.
(getting JSON error: unexpected character at line 1 column 1)
Glad to hear. Obviously this is less than ideal, but working towards solutions is what's important.
Will this make it easier to reopen federation with instances that were concerned about abuse of our open sign up policy? (or was the issue with beehaw resolved while I wasn't looking?)
If it's temporary, likely not. The concern from most of the instances is that open subs mean literally anyone and anything can join, including bots which create account after account, just moving on when the original is banned. "We are closing open signups for now" is non committal, I'm betting the only way things get refederated is if World commits to this change for the long term.
Does this mean Beehaw will refederate?
Considering this is a temporary measure, I imagine not. Lemmy.world has been under constant attacks as the #1 Lemmy instance and it's not going to stop just because bots can't get in automatically anymore.
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