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[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 145 points 2 years ago

Give him his due, he managed to convince one single country that the colour of a text message matters 😂

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago

Obligatory fuck iMessage lock-in.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

He’s the guy that *invented” rounded corners

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago
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[-] dyathinkhesaurus@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago

As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they'd let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don't recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not to mention in the early years, all of the logic you'd see from iPhone enthusiasts who would convince themselves that they didn't need X or Y feature from Android and in fact iOS is better without it anyways because it just works, only for Apple to turn around and implement it a couple months or years later anyways.

Basic features like the notification shade, quick actions, home screen widgets, etc. I saw a lot of people happily claim they were better off without these things.

[-] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes. I remember being argued down that "we don't need copy and paste! That's not an important feature!". Smh

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Right click!? Two mouse buttons are way too confusing for Mac users!

[-] techgearwhips@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Oh man I forgot about that one! 😂😭

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[-] MusketeerX@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

This is so true.

For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.

Over those years I've watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.

In recent years they've gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.

I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.

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[-] roofuskit@kbin.social 97 points 2 years ago

Steve Jobs was full of shit and killed himself with his own over confidence.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 37 points 2 years ago

If he'd made it to Covid times, he would have died from Covid after injecting bleach and horse dewormer failed to alleviate the illness.

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[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

The guy had no furniture in his house because he couldn’t find any that met his expectations.

I think there’s an occasional lesson to draw from his uncompromising nature, focus on customer experience, and marketing talent. But he was clearly a pile of shit as a human being.

[-] cthonctic@kbin.social 82 points 2 years ago

And in the end the lying salesman died because of snakeoil therapy. I wish more stories had such a happy ending.

[-] Rossel@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He had the rare treatable pancreatic cancer, and he didn't treat it because he didn't believe in modern medicine.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Goes to show how stupid supposedly smart people are.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Steve jobs and Elon musk are basically the same character.

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[-] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As a PocketPC (WinMo) user before the iPhone even existed, I take offense to the claim.

They pioneered capacitive touchscreen for ease of use, but I had ditched dumb phones years before iPhone.

Note XDA refers to the old Windows Mobile XDA phone and then became an Android community. I was there for that transition and none of us were very impressed with the iPhone, but understood that it would be something for the tech illiterate would eat up.

When Android came out, we went from Custom Roms for WinMo to Custom ROMs for Android.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not just Windows Mobile, but Blackberry OS, Palm OS, Symbian, not to mention the madlads hacking Linux onto feature phones (which eventually gave us PostMarketOS). iOS was actually very underwhelming when it came out, was(is) explicitly function over form and basically had(has) "it looks pretty and feels sleek" as its only selling points. Didn't even have third party apps whereas most of its contemporaries had them for ages by then.

[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago

Reminder that Steve Wozniak is the true Apple genius.

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[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Rich coming from a person who implied Apple innovated, when all they really did was be the first ones to assemble a consumer product out of already invented tech.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

I thought I was in "!android" not "!IHateApple".

Whatever you think of Steve Jobs, Android is better off for having competition

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 14 points 2 years ago

Literally true

[-] outbound5231@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

I was kind of hoping that these kinds of posts would stay at reddit where they belong.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

We can discuss in the feedback thread since I feel this is getting close to breaking Rule 6.

I don't think this post needs mod action, you are all grown-ups (or should at least, act like grown-ups here), but I would still like to encourage less low effort posts in the future.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 29 points 2 years ago

What did Android steal from Apple? Headphone jacks?

[-] 520@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Apparently the whole concept of a touchscreen only device, including the UI, according to Apple at the time.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Like the computers in Star Trek TNG?

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The iPhone was a novel concept as a whole. I think that’s undeniable. There was nothing like it at the time.

edit: found the iPhone haters and their revisionist history. The iPhone changed everything. When it was announced, nothing like it existed. Before the iPhone, google was working on a blackberry clone, for instance.

[-] niisyth@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago

This is blatant HTC and Palm erasure.

[-] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 12 points 2 years ago

Windows mobile and palm had existed for years before iphone.

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[-] 520@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There were a bunch of products that had elements of the iPhone in them, but the iPhone was the first to bring a lot of them together into a technology that made the world shit it's pants.

The problem for Apple is, you cannot really patent nor copyright bringing together existing elements like that. Hence they had to rely on stupid sounding lawsuits on the tiniest things they actually had the patents for.

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just as novel as the whole graphical desktop concept which they claim to be the ones who invented it but always forget to state that Steve Jobs stole it from Xerox? By Steve's words, everything Apple does today is a "stolen product".

[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

In the end Samsung would owe Apple around $500 million in US courts and Apple lost (a value I'm not even going to sit here and add up) in international courts.

The whole US snafu was largely seen around the world as American protectionism. As for Apple and Google, Apple saw their case wasn't as slam dunk internationally and decided to settle with Google in 2014.

Really though, once Steve Jobs died, the momentum for litigation dropped precipitously. Only Jobs was willing to go thermonuclear.

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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah Steve, you really showed us Windows and Android users. Fuckin' nerd.

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