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Give him his due, he managed to convince one single country that the colour of a text message matters 😂
Obligatory fuck iMessage lock-in.
He’s the guy that *invented” rounded corners
As a mobile app developer, I lost count of how many times Android would implement something New And Shiny, and then Apple would come along, sometimes years later, implement that same thing for iOS and declare and market it as Magical and Revolutionary. Usually the iOS one would be a better one, because they'd let Android work most of the bugs out, but I don't recall too many things that Apple did that had never been seen before.
This is so true.
For 10 years (2011 to 2021) I carried both an Android phone (personal) and an iPhone (work provided). Both phones were updated about every 2 years.
Over those years I've watched IOS get closer and closer to Android. The funny thing is Android has also been creeping towards IOS in some areas, though that is to a lesser extent than the other way around.
In recent years they've gotten pretty close to each other in basic functionality.
I still prefer Android, but IOS is much less annoying to use than it was a decade ago.
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Steve Jobs was full of shit and killed himself with his own over confidence.
If he'd made it to Covid times, he would have died from Covid after injecting bleach and horse dewormer failed to alleviate the illness.
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The guy had no furniture in his house because he couldn’t find any that met his expectations.
I think there’s an occasional lesson to draw from his uncompromising nature, focus on customer experience, and marketing talent. But he was clearly a pile of shit as a human being.
And in the end the lying salesman died because of snakeoil therapy. I wish more stories had such a happy ending.
He had the rare treatable pancreatic cancer, and he didn't treat it because he didn't believe in modern medicine.
Goes to show how stupid supposedly smart people are.
As a PocketPC (WinMo) user before the iPhone even existed, I take offense to the claim.
They pioneered capacitive touchscreen for ease of use, but I had ditched dumb phones years before iPhone.
Note XDA refers to the old Windows Mobile XDA phone and then became an Android community. I was there for that transition and none of us were very impressed with the iPhone, but understood that it would be something for the tech illiterate would eat up.
When Android came out, we went from Custom Roms for WinMo to Custom ROMs for Android.
Not just Windows Mobile, but Blackberry OS, Palm OS, Symbian, not to mention the madlads hacking Linux onto feature phones (which eventually gave us PostMarketOS). iOS was actually very underwhelming when it came out, was(is) explicitly function over form and basically had(has) "it looks pretty and feels sleek" as its only selling points. Didn't even have third party apps whereas most of its contemporaries had them for ages by then.
Rich coming from a person who implied Apple innovated, when all they really did was be the first ones to assemble a consumer product out of already invented tech.
I thought I was in "!android" not "!IHateApple".
Whatever you think of Steve Jobs, Android is better off for having competition
Literally true
I was kind of hoping that these kinds of posts would stay at reddit where they belong.
We can discuss in the feedback thread since I feel this is getting close to breaking Rule 6.
I don't think this post needs mod action, you are all grown-ups (or should at least, act like grown-ups here), but I would still like to encourage less low effort posts in the future.
What did Android steal from Apple? Headphone jacks?
Apparently the whole concept of a touchscreen only device, including the UI, according to Apple at the time.
The iPhone was a novel concept as a whole. I think that’s undeniable. There was nothing like it at the time.
edit: found the iPhone haters and their revisionist history. The iPhone changed everything. When it was announced, nothing like it existed. Before the iPhone, google was working on a blackberry clone, for instance.
This is blatant HTC and Palm erasure.
There were a bunch of products that had elements of the iPhone in them, but the iPhone was the first to bring a lot of them together into a technology that made the world shit it's pants.
The problem for Apple is, you cannot really patent nor copyright bringing together existing elements like that. Hence they had to rely on stupid sounding lawsuits on the tiniest things they actually had the patents for.
Just as novel as the whole graphical desktop concept which they claim to be the ones who invented it but always forget to state that Steve Jobs stole it from Xerox? By Steve's words, everything Apple does today is a "stolen product".
In the end Samsung would owe Apple around $500 million in US courts and Apple lost (a value I'm not even going to sit here and add up) in international courts.
The whole US snafu was largely seen around the world as American protectionism. As for Apple and Google, Apple saw their case wasn't as slam dunk internationally and decided to settle with Google in 2014.
Really though, once Steve Jobs died, the momentum for litigation dropped precipitously. Only Jobs was willing to go thermonuclear.
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That top quote doesn’t mean what you think it means.
The bottom lacks vital context. Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google was on the Apple board during the development of the iPhone and iPad and was privy to insider information all awhile pivoting Android from a blackberry rip off to exactly what Apple was doing. It’s similar to the Xerox thing back in the 80s where people think Jobs is being a hypocrite about ripping off their GUI when Bill Gates did it too. Apple paid Xerox in stock to see it, Microsoft just took it. Not illegal, but Jobs was pissed.
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