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[-] manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I used to be an atheist but I converted to Catholicism after a bad trip on shrooms

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[-] artvabas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Only if he is a DJ!

[-] cornballdefense 3 points 2 years ago

Not at all, nor anything supernatural. I was raised evangelical and it really soured me on religion period, and I'm still trying to unlearn many of the harmful teachings. Luckily my SO was of the same mind so I'm eternally grateful for it; that kind of thing can destroy a relationship.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, kind of. I believe there has to be more than can be scientifically proven because otherwise there really isnt much point in this world. I also think there has to be some kind of soul, how else could you be aware of your own mind? Though I wonder if its internal or external and just connected to your body in some nebulous way.

But what I definitely dont believe is that church or anyone who gains material benefit from religion has any connection to god. And what comes to bible, its good starting point and has many good core ideas. Its also a bit corrupted by greedy and powerhungry people so it shouldnt be relied upon if you can't filter it. Other religions likely also have good ideas in their holy texts though they are likely harder to understand and relate to due to cultural differences.

Ones relationship with god is extremely personal and no one can't order you about with it.

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[-] Asimo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I don't think so in the cure of god as a single being.

I think there's possibly some phenomenon maybe linked to quantum entanglement where everything in the universe is more linked than we realise and there's some sort of awareness in that.

The pagan belief of nature as a God is probably the closest to something I'd agree with rather than modern depictions of god.

[-] SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

I think what "god" does mean for me, you and others are different. Also same goes for "believe" and "you". I believe, these kinds of topics are way out of our minds' league and even we could comprehend and discuss those things(god, reality, logic etc.) we still would be using wrong tools like language and our current logic system. So both the tools we use, and our intelligence is not enough to answer this question.

But still, if you want a yes or no answer; I would say no without hesitation.

[-] renohren@partizle.com 3 points 2 years ago
[-] Evilmineraldeposits@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Well, I understand most religions as populous weapon systems to use as a tool for moral manipulation.

USA loves this shit but even uses these tactics outside of the confines of religion, it's why (some) gun owners feel the need for more fire arms to use agenst thier government, they are convinced it will help them fight back! When in reality the USA government won't use fire arms to stop you lol.

And if you just spend some time learning about geology and how solar systems are made, you will quickly find that ya all of these things work just fine independently on their own and don't need and guidence, most humans will say "hWo dO yoO tHinK maDe tHoSe eLemEnTs???"

Imo that answer might be beyond the short time frame humans will exist.

[-] MartinXYZ@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No. I usually call myself an agnostic atheist and follow it up with this thought: say humanity some day, somehow sends a man or a robot to explore a black hole and at the very bottom of that black hole there is an old door with a doorbell. We ring the doorbell and soon after an old man opens the door and says: "oh, there you are. I'm God, come on in". I think it would be kind of arrogant to just dismiss him immediately and say "no you're not! God doesn't exist!" That's why I'm not just a hardcore atheist.

[-] BillTheTailor@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

It's logically dishonest to say "There are no gods." How do you prove there isn't something? Maybe you just can't see it right now. Agnostic atheist is the only logical position one could take.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

You can say certain ones don't exist based on contradictions in their own scriptures, but it could just be that that version is just flawed, but there's a core of something that does. Anyway, yeah. I agree. Anti-theist doesn't really make sense as a position to hold. Holding any logical stance that a thing doesn't exist is pretty much impossible from a human perspective. There's so much were incapable of knowing.

[-] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

In any specific god? no. What I believe is that we don't know and will never know anything beyond our own existence. We don't know what we are, in the grand scheme of things (or if there's a grand scheme at all). We don't even know if we actually exist.

I just live my life to the best of my abilities and shrug off all that "beyond my existence" stuff as pointless. If I tried to think about it, I don't believe I would ever come anywhere close to a real answer anyway.

[-] a_lemmy_user@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago

I believe we don't want to face the adversity of judging the world in front of us so we ponder "god/no god" to not think about the fact that insurance literally began as a scam or that hospitals can legally extort you for all your worth and it isn't a fair fight or that mental healthcare is least attainable to those who need it most.

No. There isn't a decisive being weighing our souls. We weigh our own conscience, or we don't. Shit is unfair, but you do your best. That way when you feel like shit you know you're really trying. You can role play a big source of approval if you want, just don't be a predator about it.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

I've affirmed before that I do. But that was a long time ago, and I maintain the right to change my mind.

The most honest answer to the question is 'I don't really think about it.'

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[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Believing in the existence of God and believing God is a being that deserves our worship are 2 different things.

Also depends on which god and which denomination. If there are gods, it's more likely than not that there are more than one. In Christianity, God makes a big deal of "not worshipping other gods before me" so I'm just saying. What's considered a God anyway? Do extraterrestrial intelligent life with better technology than us count?

[-] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Not really. I'm not ready to fully discount whatever the afterlife is but as for the way the entity is covered in Abrahamic religions - no.

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[-] no_kill_i@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Nope. And I won't ask you which one, cuz still nope.

[-] TokyoCalling@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I shouldn't have to. Any God worthy of the title would provide clear and irrefutable proof of its own existence.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago

Even more realistic, any God worthy of the title wouldn't give a shit. I don't think they'd need to prove it, but if they cared for us to believe they would. What would us believing in them provide though if they can create literally anything?

[-] Franzia 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah sorta. She's torturing me because she's just a hottie bad bitch like that 🥵

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