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EU OS: A Fedora-based distro 'for the public sector' (eu-os.gitlab.io)
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It's only a proof of concept at the moment and I don't know if it will see mass adoption but it's a step in the right direction to ending reliance on US-based Big Tech.

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 day ago

I wonder how much work is entailed in transforming Fedora in to a distro that meets some definition of the word "Sovereign" 🤔

Personally I wouldn't want to make a project like this be dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM, especially after what happened with CentOS.

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 day ago

I read the sovereign to mean something like an unified platform for EU institutions, that you can dev and train people on.

dependent on the whims of a US defense contractor like RedHat/IBM

A very good point.

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[-] gomp@lemmy.ml 16 points 23 hours ago

Based on a US distro whose versions are supported for 1 year, and "built to the requirements for the EU public sector" (because the EU public sector has one coherent set of requirements and the dev knows them, even if he doesn't list them out).

This is most probably good-intentioned and it is admirable how the dev sprung into action, but it's naive at best.

[-] Pirky@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

EUbuntu?

[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 1 day ago

They should call it EUROS.

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[-] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Fedora based actually

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

EUdora, since I don't think the mail client is still under development

[-] enemenemu@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Family Feudora

[-] m33@theprancingpony.in 23 points 1 day ago

@SpiceDealer Sorry, what ? How can it be made in EU if it's a Fedora fork/derivative ?

[-] lambipapp@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

As a Swede we claim all of linux to be finno-swedish :)

[-] notanapple@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

I mean Fedora is open source but if they really wanted a european base, they could have gone with opensuse. AFAIK opensuse is the only fully european linux distro plus they use many of the same tech that redhat/fedora does.

Ultimately I think it doesn't matter too much since even the linux foundation is based in the US and large parts of what makes the linux desktop are maintained by non-EU companies (on top of all the major projects hosted by Github, Gitlab including most of Flathub). If its all open source, I think the risks are pretty low e.g. huawei was able to use Android despite all the restrictions.

[-] m33@theprancingpony.in 4 points 1 day ago

@notanapple The more I read the docs, the more I think it doesn't matter, they are poking around an EU distro. Nothing more, for now it is a proof of concept, not entitled to produce anything production ready

[-] ScotinDub@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Of all the distros to base it on, why would they choose fedora?

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

openSUSE is right there lol

[-] m33@theprancingpony.in 3 points 1 day ago

@ScotinDub I would say because it helps corporate adhesion, but no, they have no clue it's just a POC for now eu-os.gitlab.io/goals

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, not a lot of distros they could've based it on, which are less rooted in the EU. 🫠

[-] nawordar@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

OpenSUSE is German

[-] m33@theprancingpony.in 3 points 1 day ago

@Ephera OpenSUSE is first to come to mind, then probably Mageia + OpenMandriva (Mandrake derivatives).
All these EU opensource initiatives looks really good, but I fear that they may just be trying to pump taxpayer money and produce actually nothing usable.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

Is this made by European union I wonder

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 34 points 1 day ago

From the subheading on the ReadMe.

Community-led Proof-of-Concept for a free Operating System for the EU public sector 🇪🇺

So it's made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

Depending on who the group is ... it is good to first do a thorough check on who the group is ... it can just as likely be a group of scam artists that are riding on some nationalism band wagon happening around the world these days.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

They could, and if I was an EU government entity, I would do my homework on what they were offering, even if they were acting 100% in good faith.

However, helping governments get away from the clutches of the likes of Apple and Microsoft seems like a noble goal, and if this idea spurs that change regardless of the adoption of this distro, I think it will have been a net positive.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago

Government is only in the clutches of MS because MS bribes officials to maintain their cancerous software as a staple everywhere in Europe... Hungary is one of a few quite famous cases of bribery.

There's no depth to my loathing of MS and its illegal and anti-competitive practices.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

It's going to have to start at the local level. They're usually the ones that have less budget and less influence to sell, anyway.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

If they are honest about what they are suggesting ... the first step would be to be explicitly clear about who THEY are and WHO they represent.

I really don't care that much about the technical side of things because I'm not that technically knowledgeable. However, I am more apt to trust the judgment or recommendations of prominent people in the industry (that are not corporately attached or controlled) ... I would also trust public institutions or journalists or academics with a track record of social advocacy and wanting to represent people instead of corporations or businesses. I would also trust politicians or political advocates that mostly represent people and public institutions.

I really don't put my faith in any one person no matter who they claim to be to just say they want to build something meaningful and give me no information on their background, who they worked for, who they represent or what kind of people or organizations they associate with. There have been far too many 'good natured' technocrats and technology people from the past decade or two who claim to say that they want to change the world for the better and then end up wanting to burn it all down for a profit.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Sounds like you should run for office.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

True

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Alr thanks

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

So it’s made by the EU in the sense that the maintainers are likely citizens of the EU, I guess

Even after that, be reminded that this current mania in the EU has nothing to with being anti-american or wanting to dump American products or services themselves. The people who are most into this are anti-Trump, not anti-american or fundamentally against Europe being subordinate to the US. Most of them are probably secretly wanting the world to return to 2024 and EU being US junior partner of "the west" and happily eating MacDonalds and using microsoft services. It's not an European sovereigist movement at it's core and therefore it has not staying power after Trump or Maga.

It might be that these people are just Foss enthusiasts with pure intentions wanting to promote the cause by riding the wave. However if the wave is just a meme conjured because of Trump then this project or things like it have no staying power or future even if it really being an EU project or being adopted tomorrow.

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[-] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

No. It's one dude.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Ah okay

[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

And it's based on fedora? Man, that's great

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