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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Hello selfhosted! Sometimes I have to transfer big files or a large amounts of small files in my homelab. I used rsync but specifying the IP address and the folders and everything is bit fiddly. I thought about writing a bash script but before I do that I wanted to ask you about your favourite way to achieve this. Maybe I am missing out on an awesome tool I wasn't even thinking about.

Edit: I settled for SFTP in my GUI filemanager for now. When I have some spare time I will try to look into the other options too. Thank you for the helpful information.

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[-] Kit 40 points 1 month ago

Not gonna lie, I just map a network share and copy and paste through the gui.

[-] Flamangoman@leminal.space 6 points 1 month ago

Same lol, somebody please enlighten me on a faster way!

[-] theorangeninja@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Sounds very straight forward. Do you have a samba docker container running on your server or how do you do that?

[-] drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I just type sftp://[ip, domain or SSH alias] into my file manager and browse it as a regular folder

[-] tacocatgoat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[-] drkt_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Linux is truly extensible and it is the part I both love and struggle to explain the most.
I can sit at my desktop, developing code that physically resides on my server and interact with it from my laptop. This does not require any strange janky setup, it's just SSH. It's extensible.

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I love this so much. When I first switched to Linux, being able to just list a bunch of server aliases along with the private key references in my .ssh/config made my life SO much easier then the redundantly maintained and hard to manage putty and winscp configurations in Windows.

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[-] Kit 4 points 1 month ago

I have two servers, one Mac and one Windows. For the Mac I just map directly to the smb share, for the Windows it's a standard network share. My desktop runs Linux and connects to both with ease.

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I dont have a docker container, I just have Samba running on the server itself.

I do have an owncloud container running, which is mapped to a directory. And I have that shared out through samba so I can access it through my file manager. But that's unnecessary because owncloud is kind of trash.

[-] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 4 weeks ago

Do you really need a container for Samba?

I see the benefits of containers, but a use would be overkill.

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[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, I mean I do still use rsync for the stuff that would take a long time, but for one-off file movement I just use a mounted network drive in the normal file browser, including on Windows and MacOS machines.

[-] e0qdk@reddthat.com 17 points 1 month ago

People have already covered most of the tools I typically use, but one I haven't seen listed yet that is sometimes convenient is python3 -m http.server which runs a small web server that shares whatever is in the directory you launched it from. I've used that to download files onto my phone before when I didn't have the right USB cables/adapters handy as well as for getting data out of VMs when I didn't want to bother setting up something more complex.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly, this is an easy way to share files with non-technical people in the outside world, too. Just open up a port for that very specific purpose, send the link to your friend, watch the one file get downloaded, and then close the port and turn off the http server.

It's technically not very secure, so it's a bad idea to leave that unattended, but you can always encrypt a zip file to send it and let that file level encryption kinda make up for lack of network level encryption. And as a one-off thing, you should close up your firewall/port forwarding when you're done.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago

What's wrong with rsync? If you don't like IP addresses, use a domain name. If you use certificate authentication, you can tab complete the folders. It's a really nice UX IMO.

If you'll do this a lot, just mount the target directory with sshfs or NFS. Then use rsync or a GUI file manager.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago

Just don't run rsync as a daemon as that's a security nightmare

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Why would you do that? That sounds awful...

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago

It is, rsync sends data in plain text. There is a optional password that is also sent in plain text.

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The daemon tracks file state, so the transfers start quicker because rsync doesn’t have to scan the filesystem.

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[-] linuxguy@lemmy.gregw.us 13 points 1 month ago
[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago
[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 13 points 1 month ago

SCP, the protocol, is deprecated. scp, the command, just uses the SFTP protocol these days. I find its syntax convenient.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Oh does it? I didn't realize that. I've just switched over to rsync completely.

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Since OpenSSH version 9.0, so like mid '22. So as long as you're not running something more out of date than that.

[-] Sunbutt23@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Checks username… yeah that tracks

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago
[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago
[-] Mosfar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago
[-] lemming741@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

sftp

All my machines have my keys, nothing to set up, nothing to tear down.

[-] motsu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

smb share if its desktop to desktop. If its from phone to PC, I throw it on nextcloud on the phone, then grab it from the web ui on pc.

Smb is the way to go if you have identity set up, since your PC auth will carry over for the connection to the smb share. Nextcloud will be less typing if not since you can just have persistent auth on the app / web.

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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

rclone. I have a few helper functions;

fn mount { rclone mount http: X: --network-mode }
fn kdrama {|x| rclone --multi-thread-streams=8 --checkers=2 --transfers=2 --ignore-existing --progress copy http:$x nas:Media/KDrama/$x --filter-from
~/.config/filter.txt }
fn tv {|x| rclone --multi-thread-streams=8 --checkers=2 --transfers=2 --ignore-existing --progress copy http:$x nas:Media/TV/$x --filter-from ~/.config/filter.txt }
fn downloads {|x| rclone --multi-thread-streams=8 --checkers=2 --transfers=2 --ignore-existing --progress copy http:$x nas:Media/Downloads/$x --filter-from ~/.config/filter.txt }

So I download something to my seedbox, then use rclone lsd http: to get the exact name of the folder/files, and run tv "filename" and it runs my function. Pulls all the files (based on filter.txt) using multiple threads to the correct folder on my NAS. Works great, and maxes out my connection.

[-] magic_smoke 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  • sftp for quick shit like config files off a random server because its easy and is on by default with sshd in most distros
  • rsync for big one-time moves
  • smb for client-facing network shares
  • NFS for SAN usage (mostly storage for virtual machines)
[-] boreengreen@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

rsync is indeed fiddly. Consider SFTP in your GUI of choice. I mount the folder I need in my file browser and grab the files I need. No terminal needed and I can put the folders as favorites in the side bar.

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If you want to use the terminal though, there is scp which is supported on both windows and Linux.

Its just scp [file to copy] [username]@[server IP]:[remote location]

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

That's essentially the same as rsync

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Just slower if you already have some of the files there.

[-] jaek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Magic wormhole is pretty dead simple https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/welcome.html#installation

I use this a lot at work for moving stuff between different test vms, as you don't need to check IPs/hostnames

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[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

WinSCP for editing server config

Rsync for manual transfers over slow connections

ZFS send/receive for what it was meant for

Samba for everything else that involves mounting on clients or other servers.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

As a lazy person, I just prefer sftp on thunar.

[-] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

By "homelab", do you mean your local network? I tend to use shared folders, kdeconnect, or WebDAV.

I like WebDAV, which i can activate on Android with DavX5 and Material Files, and i use it for Joplin.

Nice thing about this setup is that i also have a certificate secured OpenVPN, so in a pinch i can access it all remotely when necessary by activating that vpn, then disconnecting.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago

What do you mean by specifying IP address?

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Depends on what I'm transferring and to/from where:

  • scp is my go-to since I'm a Linux household and have SSH keys setup and LDAP SSO as a fallback
  • sshfs if I'm too lazy to connect via SMB/NFS (or I don't feel like installing the tools for them) or I'm traversing a WAN
  • rsync for bulk transfer and backups
  • Snapdrop/Pairdrop for one-off file/text shares between devices with GUIs (mostly phone <--> PC)
  • SMB if I'm on a client PC and need to work with the files directly from the fileserver
  • NFS between servers
  • To get bulk data to my phone (e.g. updating my music library), I connect via USB in MTP mode and copy from the server via SMB or sshfs.
[-] aeno@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago
[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

rsync if it's a from/to I don't need very often

More common transfer locations are done via NFS

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd say use something like zeroconf(?) for local computer names. Or give them names in either your dns forwarder (router), hosts file or ssh config. Along with shell autocompletion, that might do the job. I use scp, rsync and I have a NFS share on the NAS and some bookmarks in Gnome's file manager, so i just click on that or type in scp or rsync with the target computer's name.

[-] lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Syncthing and/or ftp.

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Ye old samba share.

But I do like using Nextcloud. I use it for syncing my video projects so I can pick up where I left off on another computer.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Samba Bamba!!

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