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[-] psoul@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Can I get a T shirt that says “I have Dunning-Krueger and your Phd looks cute”? I just have a lot of BS to share and I don’t want to be sorry about it.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Dunning-Krueger effect is the delusion that you are smarter than a serial killer who stalks teenagers in their nightmares.

[-] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Actually, the science says you will feel regret and will grow to resent that shirt over time. /s

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That's because today's t-shirts are made of such poor materials.

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While this is very funny, and definitely representative of a sort of ignorance/arrogance commonly found in ideologues - I recently learned that most people talking about the effect have, in fact, been Dunning-Krugering themselves.

Insightful video on the topic.

What most people expect the effect to look like:

What the actual results were:

[-] anthropomorphized@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Fig 1 is a modified emotional change curve applied in learning and business settings. The term "Valley of Despair" is used in both concepts, and it's cool, memorable verbiage, but it shouldn't imply relation between Dunning-Kreuger and the change curve

https://forfengdesigns.com/tips-on-clawing-your-way-out-of-the-valley-of-despair-when-you-are-starting-a-new-business/

Image description: A modified emotional change curve from Evocon with Y-Axis being "attitude during change process" and X-Axis is time. There are 6 emotional phases described on this chart: 1. Neutral attitude, no knowledge; 2. Initial excitement, motivated; 3. Denial, indifferent, passive, apathy; 4. Resistance, frustration, doubt, anxiety (this phase falls below neutral and is described as "The Valley of Despair"); 5. Exploration, energized, small wins, creative; 6. Commitment, enthusiasm, problem solving, focus, team work.

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[-] Zzyzx 28 points 1 day ago

You know how a bunch of villains are Dr. So-and-So? I bet it's dealing with morons talking about your area of expertise that leads to one's villain era.

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[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

Wait until they learn about XXY, XYY, and XO individuals.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

There hugs AND kisses people?

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

We prefer "asexual" or "ace".

[-] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago

I swear I was learning about extra X and Y in high school 20 years ago and that studies (at the time) were showing correlation between different traits displayed by effected people. Just that alone shows incredible gender fluidity.

So where we are, 20 years later, you’d think we’d have a better understanding within society but instead somehow it’s literally regressed since then.

[-] alykanas@slrpnk.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How do you know if someone has a PhD.?

They tell you

Never not true

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 32 points 1 day ago

I mean yeah, if you spent 5 years of your life pushing the edge of human understanding on a subject, and a shithead tells you to do the science on your research subject, it's relevant lol

[-] SoleInvictus 44 points 1 day ago

I never tell people I have a PhD. It's rude, plus I don't have one.

Tbf, they kinda earned the right to brag.

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago

True, but I do think it was warranted in this case.

[-] thevoidzero@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Well you don't know people with PhD that don't tell you they have one

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[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

This is putting confirmation bias to the extreme.

[-] drtaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Sometimes they don't tell you and just quietly update all of their usernames...

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Right? It's really weird...

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[-] TwistyLex@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

Funny enough, my boss has a PhD in Evolutionary Biology. She never tells people because they start referring to her as Doctor, and she hates that. I don't think I've actually ever heard her bring it up on her own.

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I'm a bit uninformed on this; it seems fascinating. Do these things happen due to something unusual during the growth of a fetus? What's the name for this phenomenon?

[-] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

There's a bunch of them, but one more common example is Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome.

It's also possible to have a non-functional SRY (XY but female), or to be XX with an SRY translocation (XX but male).

Biology is complicated: pretty much anyone who says it only happens one way or is really simple is wrong.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

"Yeah... SRY, but sex and gender are not a binary."

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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 day ago

Can someone explain to me how some XX people become cis male?

[-] match@pawb.social 71 points 1 day ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome

tldr biology is dice rolls and humans are intersex for no reason sometimes

on a side note one of my friends had this and she only found out when she started transitioning. she is now a trans woman with XX chromosomes. i can only imagine how fucking vindicating it must have felt

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[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 day ago

De La Chappell syndrome, congenital adrenal hyperplasia, androgen exposure in utero, ovotesticular disorder of of sex development all result in a person with cis male characteristics and in some cases cis male typical genitalia despite having xx chromosomes

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

Gene expression is not as straightforward as people think. All sorts of weird shit can happen, and that's not even including gene mutations.

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://static.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/File/Pitch_sketch_final.png?w=2000

This is the best resource I've seen to show things relatively simply.

The TL;DR is that a whole "Y" chromosome isn't exactly responsible for "maleness", the SRY gene is. It's normally on the Y chromosome, but mutations can occur placing that gene onto the X chromosome. Inversely, someone could inherit a Y chromosome without that gene, in which case they would develop with female traits.

It's not considered trans because someone with 46XX plus the SRY gene would develop male genitalia, be identified as male at birth, and likely identify themselves as male. For some types of these conditions, there are plenty of people walking around with no clue that their chromosomes don't match their gender.

Disclaimer: I'm not a geneticist, so i could have explained something a little off.

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[-] OmnipotentEntity@beehaw.org 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I googled it for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome

In 90 percent of these individuals, the syndrome is caused by the Y chromosome's SRY gene, which triggers male reproductive development, being atypically included in the crossing over of genetic information that takes place between the pseudoautosomal regions of the X and Y chromosomes during meiosis in the father.[2][7] When the X with the SRY gene combines with a normal X from the mother during fertilization, the result is an XX genetic male. Less common are SRY-negative individuals, those who are genetically females, which can be caused by a mutation in an autosomal or X chromosomal gene.[2] The masculinization of XX males is variable.

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