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submitted 1 year ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

In Russia, rape is a crime that carries a penalty of three to six years in most cases, but it is difficult to pursue and get a conviction. According to statistics from the Crisis Center for Women in St. Petersburg, up to 70% of women who have been raped go to the police, but only 10% of the accusations result in charges. As a result, it is estimated that only 1% of men who commit these acts receive criminal punishment.

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[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago

Widely used Russian proverb: “Бьёт – значит любит”

Translation “if he beats you, it means he loves you”.

[-] Xianshi@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

That is so fucked up.

[-] 0x815@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

Similar proverbs exist in multiple cultures across the globe.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Not only that, but we teach them to children from infancy ("he's only mean to you because he likes you!").
It's quite disturbing how pervasive, and harmful, these ideas are, throughout all patriarchal societies.

[-] throws_lemy@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

sounds like this is a common fetish in Russia 🤔

[-] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read through the mentioned study that is quoted in the article as the source for that number with a translator, but I cannot find anything relating to the number. On the contrary, the mentioned rates of abuse seem to be way lower.

In general, 24% of respondents are aware of the use of physical force (beatings, blows) in families among their environment, including their own. Every fourteenth resident of Russia (7%) witnessed domestic assault in the parental family, and every twentieth (5%) practices or is the object of violence in their own. Given the sensitivity of the topic of violence for the interview format, we can assume that this share in both cases may be higher.

(Translated)

https://www-levada-ru.translate.goog/2019/09/13/domashnee-nasilie/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

At the end it talks about which acts are generally considered domestic violence by married people, but it does not even talk about the rate of abused married woman in particular.

Maybe someone who can read russian can find something here that I cannot? But as of now I see no source for the claim.

Edit: Just to be clear: I am not supporting Russia's War. I am merely pointing out that the source for the claim does not actually support the claim.

[-] gelberhut@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I read the study in Russian (but I did not read the article referenced in the post).

The only number I found there is that to the question "sometimes conflicts in a family cause physical violence" 4% of women answered that this happened in their family and 21% of women said that this happened in their environment.

The study also analyses what people consider as a domestic violence as such, for example many consider "requirement to show SMS/social chat" as a violence - so this term could be wider than one thinks.

[-] 0x815@feddit.de 32 points 1 year ago

Just two examples:

In 2017, Russian President Putin signed a bill into law decriminalizing domestic violence

"[...] a huge step backward for Russia, where victims of domestic violence already face enormous obstacles to getting help or justice,” said Yulia Gorbunova, Russia researcher at Human Rights Watch. “The domestic violence bill would reduce penalties for abusers and put victims’ lives at even greater risk.”

In 2021, The Moscow Times reported:

In Russia, police fail to respond to domestic violence complaints or refuse to act on them with frightening regularity. Russian media often report on deaths from domestic violence that could have been prevented.

The weak police response is part of Russian authorities’ systemic failure to properly address domestic violence.

Even people facing severe physical abuse do not get adequate protection and assistance. Cases can be prosecuted under various legal provisions but Russia has no specific law on domestic violence. Russian legislation does not contain a stand-alone offense, or even a definition, for domestic violence, nor does it allow for protection orders to ensure immediate and life-saving help.

[-] 0x815@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago

St. Petersburg Police Detain Woman Who Fled Chechnya Over Domestic Violence

Police in the Russian city of St. Petersburg have detained and reportedly sent back a woman who had fled her native North Caucasus region of Chechnya because of fears for her safety, the SK SOS human rights group said on August 24, adding that Seda Suleimanova may face an "honor killing" upon her return.

[-] Maiznieks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This tells so much about russians.. Terrible, just terible.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If violence towards women is your metric, this is hardly a problem exclusive to them (to be clear this isn't to excuse Russia, it's to point out that a violent rape culture exist everywhere there is patriarchy, and it is said patriarchy that needs to be addressed, not an individual country).

[-] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

*Russian men

[-] traveler@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

Why people think Ukrainians and the rest don’t have anything to do with them. Tells a lot about republicans the fact they are increasingly showing support for the Russians.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Uh oh. Hopefully I don't have to read about a "critical support" justification for this because it disrupts "western hegemony"

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Wow, Russian men are state sponsored monsters.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

91? Does that mean that only 9% of married men are non-violent?

[-] ValiantDust@feddit.de 27 points 1 year ago

No, it doesn't necessarily. Several women can be the victim of one man. Of course that doesn't change that it's probably a very low number.

[-] Francisco@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

#RussianFreedom

[-] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Okay, I have never before heard the phrase "reproductive violence" and I sincerely hope I'll never hear it again.

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