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[-] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 52 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

More competition will ensure the oligarchs to behave.

I don't trust the EU tech owners, but I recognize that they are at an disadvantage to the US counterpart (and nationalism is a useful tool to sell their product) so they won't be making overt moves to dismantle European democracy.

[-] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

It’s really really really not up to trust! Imagine if bec of eu oligarchs thousands of folks died because said oligarchs refused to pay for peoples healthcare!

The one remaining guillotine in France would go around!

[-] beanie@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

So there really is one still in existence? So, like, if a prototype were needed ( just hypothetically speaking, of course), to build more, that could be done?

Asking for a friend. . . Of a friend.

[-] StarlingDE@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm more in favour of the Mussolini approach. As in: what happened to Mussolini.

[-] EldritchFeminity 2 points 17 hours ago

How about when Spain voted out their fascist Prime Minister and put him in the Spanish space program:

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There's so many places where strategically important resources have been delegated wholesale to the US. Now, concerning mankind, it's theoretically better, of course, to not overdo it with wasteful redundancies. But, unfortunately, we're not talking about some kind of UN-controlled infrastructure, which is maintained and used internationally. Unfortunately, it's controlled by people like this, and that is now coming home to roost.

[-] vesi@lemm.ee 12 points 17 hours ago

I can’t stand the fact that Poland is doing Literally What they wanted - spending a lot of money on defence. Yet, they bark at them.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 32 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Pride goeth before the fall, they say. The hellish part is the wait.

[-] LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 5 points 14 hours ago

Elon is an absolute clown there are alternatives they just aren’t as robust at this time.

[-] rraggl@feddit.nl 7 points 16 hours ago

That would be Eutelsat, but it is smaller in scale (at the moment) and therefore more expensive. It's also said to be less userfriendly, but that should be possible to fix.

[-] SrMono@feddit.org 18 points 22 hours ago

Isn’t OneWeb constellation is debated until Iris2 is available?

But we should reconsider the SpaceX launch contracts.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 22 hours ago

They’re both targeted towards commercial or government business, which is unfortunate from an individual subscriber perspective. I would love to see a euro competitor to Starlink and Kuiper, so I can unplug my Starlink.

Iris2 looks like a traditional Euro project with a dozen companies from different countries involved, to make sure the funding isn’t concentrated in one country. SpaceX has the advantage of improved integration in comparison.

[-] BurningRiver@beehaw.org 1 points 19 hours ago

Not exactly a replacement for Starlink, and it’s not ready yet, but Vodafone just announced buildup of a European direct to device service.

Full disclosure, AST Spacemobile is a US company directly competing with Starlink in this space.

https://www.vodafone.com/news/corporate-and-financial/vodafone-and-ast-space-mobile-sign-agreement-to-create-european-direct-to-device-satellite-service-provider

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

We should consider buying and nationalizing starlink. It's apparently critical for national defense and security, so it would make perfect sense to nationalize it.

[-] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

We should reconsider every thing associated with this psychopath… which is why he would stop at nothing until he owned those who might challenge him. Elon may be the most significant threat the western world faces at this time, and I don’t think the solution will come from inside his captured governments.

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

An alternative sure, but not in the manner. StarLink is already filling up the air space and producing a ton of new space debris. It needs to die with an entirely different alternative.

[-] florencia 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The alternative is putting up "do you want free training on operating a small bulldozer?" signs everywhere, hiring the humans who show up, and laying down underground cable or telephone poles everywhere. Fuck, just slap a "national defense" reason for why there needs to be internet everywhere for military communications.

Starlink outshines in latency vs undersea cables. Small drones use small radios, bigger drones can use bigger military satellites. Just build out communication to rural areas already. Integrate comm lines into road maintenance crews.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 20 hours ago

What is the alternative?

Geostationary needs a lot more power to transmit.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago

What is the alternative?

Underground fiber. The thing we paid all our telecoms to install back in the 90s, which they promptly didn't do after pocketing all the money.

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

That's not even the issue with geostationary. The problem is latency to/from satellites in geostationary orbit.

[-] Endersen@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago

Now I do understand why nations started to name their '' air forces '', '' air and space forces ''

Soon, we may see satellites taken down Space at least until was a place of cooperation. Too bad we start to use it as a new field for combat

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[-] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I am 100% willing to help start a 501(c )(3) with the goal of creating free access to satellite internet

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