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[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

We will maybe break up with usa but never with israel. Fucking shameful what germany of all places is endorsing.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

As a state, it's easier to support Israel than to actually take some fucking responsibility.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

Were they actually breaking any law or did the government just decide it wanted to give them a beating?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 41 points 1 day ago

The German state is incredibly repressive against solidarity for Palestine.

[-] t3b4k@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

Very fake as most of the pro-palestinian propaganda here and in other websites.

Being in favor of having a Palestinian state implies that:

  • no Hamas or any terrorist organization can be in power
  • stop teaching children to hate Jews (very common in Muslim countries by the way)
  • stop repressing liberal movement ("we want to live" movement for example, weird that nobody talked about it uh?)

Israel needs to stop the hostilities but it is absurd that "pro-palestinian" are more and more blind and justify easily the atrocities that the radical Muslims do to their own people. Why do people not have critical thinking?

This is not a war to obtain the legal status of the State and being recognized by Israel, the place was owned and managed by Egypt, the same that has tunnels connected to Palestine, the same that did not accept any refugees, the same countries around Palestine that did not accept them, even Lebanon where Hezbollah is. This is a war that a terrorist group decided to do because of foreign investments from Muslims that are ideologically against any Jew to be alive, this is why they repressed all the protestors in Palestine ALL THE TIME.

Do you want to criticize Israel for their behavior? Be my guest, I agree and I am totally against any cruelty or anything that resembles oppression but if you think Hamas or any of them do it for freedom you have absolutely no idea what you are saying and you are naive.

Mohammad Tawhidi, Mosab Hassan Yousef and hundred of people said exactly this but westerns think they know Islam better than an Imam in Dubai or Saudi Arabia that says exactly how dangerous they are.

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[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is it? We had many peaceful demonstrations.

When it got problematic was when people on demonstrations shoutet that they wanted a kalifat (don't know how to write the word) and "from the river ...", because Hamas and other people interpret it differently.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago

It's not only happening on protests. People get exmatriculated or their visas revoked if they go to the wrong protest camp or post the wrong things on facebook. You can also get your citizenship denied if you have the wrong opinions on Iserael, since the IHRA is official stance of the state.

[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think, this is a quite biased (at least not accurate) representation of what is happening.

You can probably find single examples of all of that above, e.g. for exmatriculation, but when you dig deeper, there are probably hurdles for that:

Konkret soll exmatrikuliert werden können, wer Gewalt anwendet oder dazu auffordert, wer wegen einer Straftat „zulasten eines Mitglieds der Hochschule“ rechtskräftig verurteilt wurde, oder wer Einrichtungen der Hochschule zu strafbaren Handlungen „nutzt oder zu nutzen versucht“

You can also get your citizenship denied if you have the wrong opinions on Iserael, since the IHRA is official stance of the state.

This "stance of the state" thing is not law. There were for sure public discussions about denying citizenship for people who oppose democracy or the right of Israel to exist. But let me be honest: If someone opposes democracy or freedom or thinks that Israel or any other country should be fully destroyed, I don't need such a person in my country. But if your opinion is that Netanyahu is an a-hole and that his far-right government buddies only want more war and death, no one will do anything with your citizenship because of that.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

You can probably find single examples of all of that above

Here's an interview of a student about how the state tries to break the protests.

Exmatriculation might be quite rare. But the Staatsschutz telling the BAMF to revoke visas, based on Facebook posts most certainly is not. It's just not the kind of things you're gonna read in the SZ, or Welt.

This "stance of the state" thing is not law.

Yes, because the German constitutional court wouldn't allow that kind of law. It is however a soft-power tool to shape political discourse in favour of Netanyahu.

There were for sure public discussions about denying citizenship for people who oppose democracy or the right of Israel to exist.

I findeyour faith in the organs of the state a bit naive.You can check out yourself how these decisions not to grant citizenship are carried out. If you ask me: most of the questions the judge uses to determine whether or not someone is "opposing democracy" wouldn't get a correct answer from most Germans.

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[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 23 points 1 day ago

I don't know the context of the video.

But yes, covering your face on a demonstration is illegal and can lead to up to 1 year in jail.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermummungsverbot

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[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Loving the irony of that fully armored Nazi police fuck pushing and punching an unarmed old woman on her face, front-and-center of this video.

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago

are those flags for women's rights movement?

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 day ago

No those are palestinian flags

[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

No, very much the opposite.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

The civilized Western world is ramming some sense into these crazy women holding Palestinian flags where the most women are killed worldwide by the West.

Truly this is peak civilization.

I can only imagine the comments if this was Iran instead of Germany.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago
[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

Those are Palestinian flags, buddy.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Indeed. Palestinian women are the most oppressed women in the world. They are being oppressed by the Western hegemony and Israel.

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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Well, someone wasn't at a protest today. /s

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[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Auf Bullenschweine wirft man Steine

[-] Another_username@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Authorities have banned Arabic chants and speeches at demonstrations

Has anyone taken this to court yet? Surely it would be unconstitutional?

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 day ago

You're underestimating how much freedom of speech is repressed in Germany when it comes to speech that critizises Israel.

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