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submitted 3 weeks ago by HappyFrog to c/outoftheloop@lemmy.world

With PewDiePie switching to Linux, I've seen more and more post with him and they often get locked.

What moral failings did he commit, and has he done anything to make up for them?

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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 57 points 3 weeks ago

One thing to add to what others have said:

After having done these three or four very questionable things, people realized that YouTube's algorithm was essentially sending Pewdiepie's viewers down a radicalization pipeline. The algorithm would start recommending alt-right content to people who had watched Pewdiepie videos.

He himself still at that point made fun of the journalists who reported on this, essentially showing the stance of "I am not responsible for what my viewers do" and "I am not a Nazi and I am not radicalizing anyone".

In response to the fiverr video in 2017 he was dropped from his partner network and his Youtube Red show was cancelled midway into production. Additionally in what was called "adpocalypse", advertisers forced Google to disable ads from being shown on controversial videos.

And then in March 2019 a Nazi terrorist livestreamed himself shooting 50 people in two mosques in New Zealand. Before starting to shoot, the terrorist screamed "Subscribe to Pewdiepie!" This was the point where he finally seemed to wake up to the fact that some of his viewers actually were far-right extremists. And he stopped doing any edgy stuff that could be interpreted as being pro-Nazi.

[-] Wetstew@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

The fact that he wasn't concerned that a notable chunk of his audience was either fasc-y or being led down that path is concerning.

I remember The Comedy Button (a podcast comprised of mostly ex-IGN staff) during Gamergate. A few of their fans were espousing that kind of thought and the hosts shut that shit down quick. They lost a chunk of listeners, but you gotta kick the nazis out of the bar.

[-] HappyFrog 20 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like nurturing an audience is part of the job of a influencer. For example, when Jerma sees bigoted shit in his chat, people are banned , and he tells his chat why it's wrong to say that stuff. Being clear and concrete is great tools to garnering a wholesome audience.

From what I understand, PewDiePie didn't do anything.

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In the past, he was a gaming streamer. During many of his streams, his actions and words strongly suggested that he was racist and/or a Nazi. At least once, he was called out for using the n-word (with the hard r). He has never expressed any remorse.

Because of that, many people consider him to be the gateway of the alt-right pipeline. Essentially, children are attracted to his channel for the gaming content, and over time, they are influenced by his behavior to be increasingly accepting of racist and/or alt-right content (after which the YouTube algorithm will then feed them increasingly extremist content)

Since at least several years ago, he retired from his channel, started a family, and moved to Japan (not necessarily in that order). It's entirely unclear if he's changed his mind about any of his previous behaviors, and in the absence of any indicators of change, many people take the stance that he probably still is a racist/Nazi

[-] dirtycrow@programming.dev 14 points 3 weeks ago

This is a ridiculous stance. A lot of people say stupid stuff on the internet and then mature and move on. A lot of us have the privilege of people (the entire world) not remembering what we said. I don’t think it’s right that he impressed on his viewers that those words are acceptable, but that doesn’t make him a nazi or racist in public or private. That dilutes the word further when there isn’t enough evidence to even suggest it’s true, ignores the fact that most of us are prejudiced more than we’d admit, and causes people to just ignore us when we aren’t making a reactionary standpoint on a real issue. I have never been a PewDiePie viewer nor do I think his content is interesting nor his move to Linux, but I hate to see Lemmy pinning him on a wall as if he’s responsible for an entire generation becoming radicalized with alt-right. I would blame Big Tech and algorithms.

[-] HappyFrog 9 points 3 weeks ago

Has he apologized or acknowledged that what he did was wrong? If not, then I would assume that he still holds these views.

[-] HappyFrog 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you! :3

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Here's a couple of deep analysis on pewdiepie and the alt-right

The pewdiepipeline, how racist humor lead to vialonce: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pnmRYRRDbuw

The Alt-right playbook: How to radicalize a normie: https://youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g

And additional points that no one had mentioned is that pdp, did a couple of videos, meme reviews, with people like Ben Shapiro and recommend books from Jordan Peterson, sending his million of impressionable young audience directly into misogynist, racist and homophonic content creators.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like he was bought and joined the propaganda machine into 1984

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago

I know the name PewDiePie, but I have no idea why he's so famous or why he was one of the biggest streamers in the world.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 20 points 3 weeks ago

It's solely because he was an early adopter of the YouTube platform.

[-] Magister@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm so OOL that I don't know who this pewdiepie is, sorry!

[-] essell@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Is PewDiePie one of those ponies? Or a Brony?

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