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Yes, I know that it still exist, and yes, decentralized currency which utilizes distributed, cryptographic validation is not actually a strictly bad idea, but...

Is the speculative investment scam, which crypto substantially represented, finally dead? Can we go back to buying gold bars and Pokemon cards?

I feel like it is, but I'm having a hard time putting my finger on why it lost its sheen. Maybe crypto scammers moved on to selling LLM "prompts?" Maybe the rug just got pulled enough times that everyone lost trust.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 9 points 2 years ago

Nah. This happens every few years, has been since 2014. Buy a GPU before they rise up and use all of our electricity again. An new SBF will crash it sometime.

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[-] Mandy@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

it should be

[-] Simoto@electricrequiem.com 8 points 2 years ago

@peanuts4life@beehaw.org It's called a bear market. Every 3-4 years, it's the same thing. Patience...​:blobcatthinksmart:​

[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Cryptography? No it's not, any more than math is dead.

Cryptocurrency? I don't know.

[-] Haan@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

as long as there are suckers out there, crypto will live.

[-] LootGoblin42@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

No. Bitcoin is the future of money. It really is the best form of money humanity has invented so far. People just need to stop trading shit coins.

[-] Kay_Angel@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Do you use Bitcoin in real life?

[-] neutronst4r@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

Do you use and gold in real life to pay for stuff?

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[-] kestrel7@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

I used to work at a liquor store and we had one regular customer who paid with a bitcoin card. This was around 2015 or so. It was funny because he said it was because of "anonymity" but everyone knew him as "the guy who pays with bitcoin."

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Most existing cryptocurrencies have no inherent value, they might make sense as a currency, but having a cell in a distributed spreadsheet assigned shouldn't be considered a growth investment and it's absurd how many treated it that way. The only way that sort of thing works is with an endless supply of greater fools, and evidently they ran out.

[-] ericflo@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

No, it'll never go away, fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 7 points 2 years ago

I use crypto for its real intention, as money. I buy my groceries with crypto and pay most of my bills in crypto on a monthly basis. Crypto itself is not a problem. Its the FTX's and Mt Gox's of the world trying to graft old banking norms onto crypto that is the majority of the problem. "not your keys, not your coins." Exchanges are like gas station bathrooms, you go in, do your business, and get the heck out. You dont just hang around.

[-] FiskFisk33@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Your bank being named "Magic the gathering online exchange" really should have been a red flag..

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[-] roulettebreaker@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Well, are MLMs dead? Audible book spamming? The nigerian prince scam? Hell, mail scams are still running to this day.

As long as there's a hook, I doubt cryptomoney scams are going to be leaving any time soon. It is rare we'll see scams of the same magnitude as before, but they'll always be around in those sorts of communities. Just a matter of principle, whenever money's involved.

You could probably go back to buying pokemon cards, though. The fact that crypto's greatest investors have a vested interest in not having their cash vanish into thin air, it's best used for it's purpose-- as currency-- unless another FTX fumbles the bag.

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[-] Stellario@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago

Crypto is dead, long live bitcoin.

[-] tinselpar@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

Maybe crypto scammers moved on to selling LLM “prompts?”

The A.I. "Grift Shift" is Underway

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 6 points 2 years ago

This is good for Bitcoin.

[-] big_large_smile@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

It's definitely not dead. Market cycles come and go. It's just a matter of time until the next round.

[-] worfamerryman@beehaw.org 6 points 2 years ago

In the US each time crypto is traded it needs to be reported.

I got free crypto from Coinbase. Then sent it to a wallet, then sold it. So each transaction needed to be reported. It’s too troublesome to be worth it.

Also, if I buy crypto, they have a week hold before I can move it. My idea was to buy crypto in country A and sell it in country B to quickly transfer money between the two countries I live in. Also it would help me beat the bank fees.

But the 7 day hold kinda defeats the purpose of quickly transferring money.

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[-] VeeSilverball@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Not dead, just sleeping. It's a tougher, higher interest-rate market which cuts out a lot of the gambling behavior. I remain invested but my principle has shifted away from the financial and trad-economic terms to this:

Blockchains are valuable where they secure valuable information. Therefore, if a blockchain adds more valuable information, it becomes more valuable.

And that's it. You don't have to introduce markets and trading to make the point, but it positions those elements in a supporting role, and gets at one of the most pressing issues of today: where should our sources of truth online start? Blockchains can't solve the problems of false sensation, reasoning or belief, but they fill in certain technical gaps where we currently rely on handing over custody to someone's database and hoping nothing happens or they're too big to fail. It's just a matter of aligning the applications towards the role of public good, and the air is clear for that right now.

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[-] joelthelion@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Bitcoin is still around 30k a pop, so I wouldn't say it's dead yet. But I foresee a big crash in the months or years to come: the hype has passed, and the real uses of crypto are very few. It's also not a good investment since the expected returns are 0. Once people finally realize that, I see the price falling to 1k or even less.

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[-] Deletecat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Most people are shifting towards the AI trend instead. Read a post which somewhat describes it well, people integrate the new trends into their projects to get more investor money. Nothing looks better to investors other than 'We have AI Blockchain nano technology behind our service'.

Last year, 'we have blockchain' earned lots of money. Now it's 'we have AI'. In both cases, the technology probably isn't needed, it is there just to be there.

[-] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Read the article, and gonna be honest I feel like the sudden push for "AI" development and marketing is to keep the stock prices up amid layoffs from hiring too much since the pandemic.

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