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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 4 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

Whole world needs to put 300 percent tarrifs on the US until they realise they are 5 percent of the world and aren't in a position to bully others.

China's going to eat their lunch if they keep things as they are.

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 2 points 2 minutes ago

A quarter of the world's GDP, just saying.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 4 minutes ago

Do it, but sadly it will affect the Blue States.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Please please please only do this during the day. 8AM to 5PM. Don't put the squeeze on the voters. They either didn't vote for trump, or they were so dumb that they did vote for trump won't understand why their electric bill went through the roof. Do this during the day to shut down the businesses that stumped for trump, sent him millions of dollars and bent the knee in the hopes the tax burden will get shifted further down the income scale.

But definitely do it!

[-] 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 28 minutes ago

Don't put the squeeze on the voters. They either didn't vote for trump, or they were so dumb that they did vote for trump won't understand why their electric bill went through the roof.

The whole point of democracy is the voters have an impact. If nothing changes for the voters don't be surprised when they vote for the same party next time.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 10 points 49 minutes ago

Sorry. 24/7, just like the tariffs.

It will hurt. That's the point. Maybe it'll hurt enough that y'all DO something about the absolute fuckery happening down there. Canada didn't ask for this shit.

I hate that this is where things are but pretty soon folks will need to get to the FO part of FAFO.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

You can't bomb people into loving you. A lesson hard learned in the Middle East.

Sure, you can run those tariffs 24/7, and it would be totally in your sovereign right to do so. However, that's not going to change anything. Trump may be a blithering idiot, but the Peter Thiels and Stephen Millers feeding him all those "bright ideas" certainly knew that equal tariffs from Canada would be the response. The line here will be "Canada is attacking you, and shutting off your power", and the trump supporters will gag themselves choking down that line of rhetoric as hard and as fast as possible. Thats not going to solve the tariffs problem for Canada though, it will only make it worse.

If you want revenge, equal tariffs. If you wanna actually stick it to the people that stuck you and force them to backtrack, go after the businesses bottom line.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

You can't bomb people into loving you

That's what Canada needs to teach Trump. It's needs to be 24/7 or else he thinks he got away with it.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 3 points 25 minutes ago

This all just seems incredibly sad to me. As a nation, it sounds like the fight has been completely beaten out of you all, so much so that you're afraid of even a little pain, vote based on empty promises and sound bites, and blame each other instead of yourselves.

You all traded your freedom for convenience. You're like flowers, opened wide, waiting for rain rather than vines that seek.

Best of luck to you all. We have to prepare ourselves, as members of the global economy, for this economic fallout. I'm prepared to fight and suffer, if I have to protect my own way of life.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 minutes ago

Pain is fine. Pain is deserved. Pain needs to either be felt as a whole or target the most deserving.

But shutting off electricity mainly affects people without any power (😁) and that had the awareness to vote against this horror. Trump and co will just laugh “see the poor snowflake liberals what happens when they import clean electricity instead of good old American coal”.

I can’t argue that we don’t deserve it but I can hope for something more likely to help make a difference

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 6 points 1 hour ago

Trump's tariffs don't just apply to business hours. Americans need to feel the pain that Canadians will.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

Sure, if you want to have fair tariffs.

If you want to have effective tariffs that reverse trumps policy, then you need to be more selective.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 9 points 41 minutes ago

I disagree. If people are comfortable, they won't want to change the status quo.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 25 points 2 hours ago

USian here, don't think twice, fucking do it.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

Trump won’t care. Mostly hits blue states. He will probably cackle

[-] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Do you mean American? Or am I having a stroke?

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 hour ago

Mexicans and Canadians are also from North America, and, hence, are American.

[-] dominotheory@midwest.social 2 points 16 minutes ago

Plus there's all of South America. Also American.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think if you called Canadians or Mexicans "Americans" right now, they would be very offended.

Also, USian just sounds really fucking dumb.

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

Nobody would ever say it in real life. That's how you know it's for the terminally online smug huggers.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

I wouldn't be offended, signed a canukian

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah, it does sound kinda dumb, but so are we

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago
[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 hours ago

Ford’s “smile” masks the grim reality of trade wars hurting everyday citizens on both sides. Effectively summarizes the stakes and implications of Ford's actions.

🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

As an American, fucking do it, and make sure DC and Red states feel the most pain. And don't have some qwar ass back door conversation/deal to end the tariffs. Refuse to end them until he goes on live television and reads the following

"To all my fellow Americans, the best Americans from the best America, in hind sight, as it concerns tariffs with our closest geographical allies, I was wrong. The decision I made was stupid, and it was made by an idiot, me. Unfortunately I don't have the intellectual or business aptitude to actually determine what a good decision would be, as opposed to a bad decision. In fact, I am as stupid as the idiots who voted for me. This was the idea that I thought I would be fantastic and I was completely wrong and it's the only idea I had. I apologize to Canada and Mexico, both their leaders and citizens"

It would crush him to make a sincere public apology and backtrack. And he'll still get lynched before the end of year. Because he fucking deserves it.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

Canada ought to put forward two points.

  1. Any tariff trump makes will be matched, and will run for 90 days longer than trump's tariff (make that shit show up big on quarterly earnings numbers)

  2. Any tariff that trump merely mentions publicly, or in private negotiaions, will immediately start a retaliatory tariff from Canada.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 3 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately, most of Texas will be fine... ish. Well, as fine as they usually are, which isn't great. I'm really surprised more people aren't up in arms about how much this state fucking sucks ass for literally everything.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 69 points 6 hours ago

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago

Trudeau got in front of the cameras today and spelled this out. Our government chose to take this action, and Canada is having an entirely reasonable response. Once the tarrifs end, we can go back to where we were, but in the meantime, Americans need to learn how much they rely on Canadian trade and need to understand that this is entirely our government's fault.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 2 points 47 minutes ago

Sadly, fox, oan and the usual right wing echo chambers aren't gonna feed Trudeau's message to their idiot masses. The people he reached are people that probably have at least half a clue what's happening and who is responsible.

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

There really is no way to back to where we were. We can only go forward from here. This is a bell that can’t be unrung.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 55 points 6 hours ago

Do it Canada. The dumber half of our country needs to learn the hard way. And, unfortunately, the smarter half has to go along for the ride.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

The dumber half of our country needs to learn...

The won't. You need to target trump's real support, which is Russia and billionaires. Going after his voters is like kicking a dog for eating it's own puke. The poor animal just isn't capable of understanding what it did or why you kicked it.

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

Exactly. The entire reason Trump is President again is because we did not take the serious extreme and required actions after the 2020 elections to ensure that him, his supporters, and enablers could never participate in American society again.

The same mistake we made after the civil war we decided that we would be generous and go easy on those who betrayed us. We are still paying for that mistake we are still paying for the mistake with Trump. The only thing fascist understand is violence in the only way fascism ends is through violence.

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