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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

This ^^^ so much

Do not trust Russia, and do not trust the US under current administration, or while the GOP still exists. We in the rest of the world are ON OUR OWN and must band together against this push of fascism across the world. This is not a drill, this is not a joke. Fascism is again on the rise, as it was in the 1930s. We all know where that led, so don't let it do so again!

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

i guess the continued shelling of civilians in donbass and the rise of the banderites is russias fault too

[-] Phineaz@feddit.org 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I mean, technically sort of, yeah. Continued russian aggression and interference most definitely contributed to the rise of political extremism. Which just so happened to give the Kreml plenty of reason for further interference, such as the direct deployment of "volunteers" into the civil war.

Russia would have had the opportunity to support Russian communities in Ukraine peacefully, for example with beneficial trade agreements and cultural exchange programs. Unfortunately for these Russian communities, all the Kreml knows are diplomatic pressure and coercion and force of arms. As such, Russian culture was regarded as a mark of oppresion and the communities became targets of both Russian and Ukrainian nationalists - either as enemies, or potential agents.

Note: This is simply my, obviously non-comprehensive, personal understanding of the situation. Feel free to elaborate.

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[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

Since both exist only in russian imagination, yes

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 14 points 2 months ago

Oh bother, you've upset the tankies, who totally haven't just been Russian trolls the entire time.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

Can someone explain how you are supposed to get Russia to leave? Sanctions didn't work, lethal aid didn't work, F-16s didn't work, and striking Russia itself isn't either.

You can argue for the war to continue I suppose, but Ukraine isn't winning and I'm not seeing anything here that would change that fact.

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Can someone explain how you are supposed to get Russia to leave? Sanctions didn’t work, lethal aid didn’t work, F-16s didn’t work, and striking Russia itself isn’t either.

These things haven't won the war, but they most definitely are working. Russia's economy is crippled, their military is running out of old equipment to cannibalize, and they lack the capability to produce the kinds of advanced military equipment they need. They've been throwing bodies into the meat grinder trying to overwhelm Ukraine, but despite the high cost they are making very little progress. This is not a great long term strategy, but it's the one Russia has been stuck with.

You can argue for the war to continue I suppose, but Ukraine isn’t winning and I’m not seeing anything here that would change that fact.

But what's the alternative? Right now Ukraine can only fight or surrender. While they fight, they can try to negotiate a peace deal, but so far the only deals Putin and Trump seem willing to consider are nearly indistinguishable from surrender. Give Russia everything they want, give up on everything you want, stop the fighting for now but put nothing in place to ensure that Russia won't just rearm and invade again later.

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago

Are you sure that Ukraine is not winning?

It is a war of attrition with Russia against the amount of aid the West is willing to provide to Ukraine.

The only way Russia wins is if the US changes the balance of power by enriching Russia (dropping sanctions) or impoverishing Ukraine (dropping support).

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[-] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

As i just said in another comment: imagine the backlash if someone were to post something similar with putin face. People are being accused of being russian trolls for the slightest unaligned critic of ukraine government. I'm not questioning it but this post is what propaganda actually looks like

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Source: Zelensky.

For an interesting, not meme-like reading about these ceasefires, you could reach this timeline.

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 15 points 2 months ago

The meme talks about 2014 to 2022, your sub stack post about 2021 to 2025, so one is talking about the conflict leading up to the full invasion by Russia, the other is talking about what happened after the Russian invasion. They are closely related but not the same.

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