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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by s38b35M5@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.world

The answer to "what is Firefox?" on Mozilla's FAQ page about its browser used to read:

The Firefox Browser is the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit that doesn’t sell your personal data to advertisers while helping you protect your personal information.

Now it just says:

The Firefox Browser, the only major browser backed by a not-for-profit, helps you protect your personal information.

In other words, Mozilla is no longer willing to commit to not selling your personal data to advertisers.

A related change was also highlighted by mozilla.org commenter jkaelin, who linked direct to the source code for that FAQ page. To answer the question, "is Firefox free?" Moz used to say:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it, and we don’t sell your personal data.

Now it simply reads:

Yep! The Firefox Browser is free. Super free, actually. No hidden costs or anything. You don’t pay anything to use it.

Again, a pledge to not sell people's data has disappeared. Varma insisted this is the result of the fluid definition of “sell” in the context of data sharing and privacy.

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[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Well, a browser is extremely complex, and hence super expensive to make. So if Mozilla doesn't find any other way to monetize, I guess they have to do something about user data?

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

It also now is against the terms of service to use Firefox for illegal activity or to use it to watch porn.

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[-] duhhhh9@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

Mozilla shares your data under certain circumstances. This helps people realize that Mozilla is able to share your data, regardless of 'selling' potential. Some people assumed 'we dont sell your data' meant 'we dont share your data' when that was impossible for the definition of how some built in features work.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Just because “some people” can’t words, that doesn’t mean that you should change the words to suit the people who can’t them.

[-] duhhhh9@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

The premise of 'sharing' and then receiving something from who you shared with IS a form of selling. If Mozilla .never. shared data,,, are you sure you 'can words'?

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[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Exactly what I expected: a restatement of the terms, pointing out that they're not onerous at all, and a link to jwz's blog, the single person on earth with the biggest hate boner for Mozilla.

They need money and they don't get much from donations. I'd love to hear everyone's ideas for how they can generate enough revenue to keep the lights on without either making deals with Google or engaging in any form of advertising or data trading.

There's absolutely a line where I would start looking elsewhere, but this ain't it.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

I mean people would rather have Firefox propped up by Google (an ad company)'s donations then?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd rather just use Google if we are throwing privacy out the window

Also why is my business how they make money? I just want privacy and to be Google free

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well, now, I guess all the people who like to lecture me every time the topic of Brave comes up will just chill the f*** out now.

[-] nl4real 4 points 1 month ago

Or we could just not use either? Just a thought.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I've just learned not to say the B word on Lemmy.

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