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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz

This is an interesting take, especially coming from a non-gaming focused tech website like Ars Technica. I feel like it's been too long since people were truly hyped about half life 3 though, and this wouldn't be enough, even if Valve did go through with it.

People are increasingly unhappy with windows though, and the EoL of windows 10 may push people to Linux anyways.

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 85 points 7 months ago

No. Exclusives suck for everyone in the long run. In this case, it would also be pretty heavily set against the Linux / FOSS ethos, too.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

probably all the fanboys will come out of the woodwork to defend it just like console exclusives

[-] offspec@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Nah sounds like a waste of time and resources to make a game built on their multiplatform engine and then lock it down to one environment.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

not saying that valve would do this or that they should, but if that they did people would defend it. People defend a lot of things that don't benefit anyone

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago

This is not only dumb, but also manages to ignore Gabe's past declarations on the matter. It even ignores the fact they even released CounterStrike (of all things) on consoles.

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 48 points 7 months ago

There won't be exclusives. That isn't good business for Steam or Linux.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

Exclusivity is bad for gamers. We should reject it at all times.

[-] Haarukkateroitin@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Inclusivity then again means that even nazis should be allowed to game if they behave.

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

Genius way to create a ton of ill will towards Valve, SteamOS and Linux as a whole.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 27 points 7 months ago

We already got half life 3. It was called half life alyx specifically to get away from the massive pressure that came with the meme.

Its also important to know valves strength is that they don’t need to pump out games, they make profit enough though steam. This makes sure they can put time in exploring new concepts and innovation and only release games that maintain the perception of excellence, which they could lose fast if they released a “mid” tier game.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 19 points 7 months ago

Please do not make a SteamOS exclusive game. I love Linux and Steam Deck, but this is not a good idea to exclude Windows users from playing the game.

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Making HL3 only GNU/Linux exclusive would be the gigachadest thing ever done. Well even better than exclusivity. Make the game playable on windows but only with a downgrade in performance or need of emulation, like the whole industry has made with GNU/Linux.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Imagine if the Windows version requires WSL to work.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 17 points 7 months ago

What would be the point of actually making Half Life 3? The void caused by that game's non-existence is too culturally important to ever replace!

[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago
[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 1 points 7 months ago
[-] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

slithers away

[-] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

There are grown ass adults born after the last main story Half-life game.

While I have no doubt there would be some hype for a Half-life 3, I don't think it would be the firestarter this author is thinking.

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Horrendous idea, sorry.
If anything making it exclusive would just make your average Joe resent SteamOS

[-] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 14 points 7 months ago

I'll copy what I said on Mastodon

I don't know, even though Valve are pushing Steam OS they still treat all their platforms equally, and I don't think asking gamers to replace their OS (or install alongside their existing one) or buy a new PC in order to play Half-Life 3 is a good marketing strategy. Half-Life Alyx is a great example: as great a game it is, few people actually bought VR headsets to play it.

PS: I'm one of those guys who bought a headset for HLA, but I know I'm part of the minority here.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Ewww exclusives.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I think Valve knows better than to make an exclusive. Now will they optimise it for SD? I don't think there's any doubt about that.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 11 points 7 months ago

Also, make the names of save files case sensitive, and name them like:

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[-] rotopenguin@infosec.pub 7 points 7 months ago

It's more than enough to make HL3 a Steam exclusive. And make it run well on the Deck. If Valve really wants to gild the lily, they could put a little side-story just for the Deck's controls. A follow-up to Aperture Desk Job, perhaps.

[-] PostaL@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

The same could be argued about HL:Alyx for VR, yet here we are...

[-] oyo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

VR has a major physical problem that no one has been able to solve: Nausea.

[-] solberg 4 points 7 months ago

I feel bad for people who do but I’ve never gotten nauseous from VR. Maybe it doesn’t need to be for everyone? I haven’t played HL Alyx but from what I’ve heard it’s heavily crippled and reduced compared to something like Boneworks because it tries to accommodate those with motion sickness etc

[-] oyo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, I can play Alyx just fine with point and click movement, aside from my head getting ridiculously hot, but full-motion like boneworks wrecks me in 10 minutes.

Even if Alyx is "crippled" it's by far the best VR content that exists, by an incredibly wide margin. (I'm too lazy to check but I also think you can change it to full motion.)

It should be noted that I don't get motion sickness in other contexts like in vehicles, rollercoasters, acrobatic aircraft, etc.

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

back when they were trying to do steam machines, i was saying that's what they needed. even if it was just a limited time exclusive, like hl3 comes out on linux in june, and on windows in december, it could've done a lot to solidify their os and hardware scheme. now though? idk if there's enough hype remaining around the idea of hl3, and steamOS is already a success due to handhelds, and proton has made it way more appealing to do games from linux in general, so i don't think it'd be so dramatic of an effect, and they'd probably lose out on sales to people who're really into windows.

all that said, exclusives are usually the deciding factor when choosing between systems. linux has never really had a 'killer app'. nobody wants to develop a program exclusively for linux because of its small market share, and it stays at a small market share because its competitors have important exclusives that folks can't bear to go without.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

It's always funny to see periodicals talk about Valve like they're a normal puplicly traded tech company.

Valve is private. That fact alone is neither inherently good, nor bad. What it means though, is that Valve will very likely behave very differently than other companies in the same market. Heck, I very much doubt half life Alyx would exist if they were public. If we get HL3, it will likely be a similar case.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Valve is private. That fact alone is neither inherently good, nor bad.

I'm leaning towards being a public company is inherently bad, so being a private company is preferable as the primary "not bad" option.

My main experiences with public companies lately is that they prioritize quarterly and yearly profits over long term health of the company and a good relationship with their customers. I don't think that approach will be healthy for the company long term, and hurts consumers short term.

Privately owned companies can be just as shitty as publicly owned companies, but they're not required to put short term shareholder profits first. The well run ones (especially family run ones) are more likely to prioritize building a good reputation and consumer loyalty, which is how you get companies that don't suck to interact with.

[-] HStone32@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You make good points, but I doubt you'd continue to feel that way if you were a shareholder

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

won't somebody think of those poor poor shareholders

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