Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton's trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.
every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it's valve's linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.
The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz...
I'm so disappointed Proton. So sad, but maybe you already live long eniugh to become evil? Time to move on, aah so bad..It was so great piece of software and so great company in this hell capitalist world.
I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn't used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you're priorities seem a bit off imho.
No the reason is they are pro-nazi
I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?
keepass plus syncthing works well for me. I sync between linux, android, windows.
I use KeePassX. there are android, linux and macos clients. i sync them between devices securely using Mega
Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time
+1 to Vaultwarden! I've been self-hosting it for the family and it works great.
Bitwarden premium is crazy cheap anyway. I have proton in limited and still get bitwarden premium.
I really dislike these commercial "private" solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.
Honestly I would be fine if they just setup some kind of mirror so their posts would show up across different platforms. The biggest issue with then not using mastodon is just not being informed of what is going on. They don't need to engage with people on mastodon just setup some kind of bridge.
Everyone doing social media posts to multiple networks from a single app. This is a BS excuse from Proton. Very disappointing.
Yup, no sorry. Only bots left in reddit, have fun!
Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don't use Mastodon.)
Proton recently got shot in the foot when one of their board members said some stuff that made it sound like he was somehow not certain that fascists are bad for privacy. The guy responded and clarified and made some good points...and still very clearly did not realize or did not feel it important to mention or even imply that fascists are very definitely bad for privacy. This is still post-record-scratch for Proton.
So leaving what's basically the only social media of the future, such as it is, and sticking it out in the garbage heaps, makes two data points that make a line that goes in the direction of "definitely going to enshittify". It's possible this could be wrong, because two data points isn't huge, but these are also things that were extremely easy to get right, and require an oddly large amount of effort to fuck up like they have.
Thanks for the reply! I was only aware of the CEO's X comments regarding Trump's politics. I JUST moved away from Google and have been quite happy with Proton, especially Mail and Pass.
To me, the federated social network (Fediverse, which Mastodon is one portal into) offers some distinct advantages for pluralism. No single entity can control the whole discourse. When you don't agree with your mods, you can go elsewhere without losing your connections with people: just move to a different instance.
Furthermore it's not controlled by corporations, so there is no incentive of trying to spread things like the plague just to get you addicted and make as much money.
In practice the design of the Fediverse leaves some problems open (notably, moving between servers comes at a cost to the online identity you built, and getting bootstrapped if you don't have real-life connections who are interested is more difficult) and it even creates some interesting problems of its own. But all in all it's better already than the mono-idea, "there is one norm everyone should stick to" culture we see on commercial offerings.
yet another reason to use mastodon, because they can't control it yet.
What do you mean?
They moderate their own subreddit and can censor things. There has been some drama about them deleting some posts and stuff, and in general, them moderating their subreddit makes it so that you're less likely to express what you really feel
I believe
Thanks for the explanation
Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.
I was wondering the same
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