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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago

Who would’ve thought the government that installed a far right government in a coup wouldn’t have the best intentions?!

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 16 points 21 hours ago

See, I can't tell if you're talking about America, Russia, or Ukraine.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago

I get what you’re saying, but to clarify I was speaking of the 2014 Maidan Coup where the US installed a far-right puppet government.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

And your evidence for the US installing this government is what exactly?

Let me say this as a westerner - if someone all of a sudden tried to put me in a Putinist puppet state, shit would burn. To the ground.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 13 points 20 hours ago

Sure, and Russia had their right-wing coup in 1991, and America is currently doing a self-coup.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The US was taken over in a coup when Kennedy was assassinated. We’ve been ruled by the CIA & Mossad ever since.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 19 hours ago

Eh, while they're part of maintaining the status quo, we're ruled by capital, and that was true before Kennedy too.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

And the CIA has always been an attack dog of the capitalists. That’s its whole mission.

[-] eluvinar@szmer.info 1 points 13 hours ago

Self-coup would suggest someone is in control and actually wants what's happening. That'd be nice.

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago

Current likelihood is that there's only a mineral deal if US pays Zelensky/Ukraine to fight more. Security guarantees don't actually cost anything until you have to do something, and its pretty likely that any weapons would be used to provoke aggression during ceasefire instead of protecting Ukraine's neutrality.

It's Europe that wants war more than US, and so it's far more likely they get the mineral deal to keep going to the last Ukrainian.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago

US is fatal even for itself

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

US is in a state of slow implosion. Rest of the world needs to look at collaborating while excluding the US.

My guess is China will fill the void left by the disintegration of USAID in order to boost its global standing.

I strongly encourage all nations to begin violating US intellectual property rights. Nations like India already do so with pharmaceuticals.

Eventually other nations will need to take on the mantle of tech and pharmaceutical research and development and we don't want to live in a world where all this progress is lost.

Americans have chosen to nuke their own democracy and we need to minimize the damage done to the rest of the world as much as possible.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago

Our implosion isn't so slow these days.

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My guess is China will fill the void left by the disintegration of USAID in order to boost its global standing.

China will take large chunks. But I think we will also see a decentralization as china won't be able to take it all. Countries like Turkey, Malaysia, Brazil and so on will probably increase their regional soft powers a lot.

This process also already started years ago, but will be catalyzed by this.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago

Russophobia has been the big disease, really created by US/USAID/NED/CIA. Europe seems to need a moment to let go, but if US isn't forcing them into it, the rest of the world has already been open to Russia and China. Trump is literally forcing the world to liberate itself from US. The US is still a nice market, but China is much larger to sell into, and tariff wars are not likely to bring investments into the US.

A multipolar world makes as much obvious sense as democracy. But it is pretty remarkable that US is pushing for it now.

[-] eluvinar@szmer.info 3 points 13 hours ago

Europe seems to need a moment to let go, but if US isn’t forcing them into it, the rest of the world has already been open to Russia and China

I mean, what would Europe need from russia? We're currently more of a "global power" then they are. Only countries seriously aligning themselves with Russia those days are either extremely weak and near russia and so have 0 choice in the matter or try to play both sides for fun and profit LARPing as Tito.

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[-] androidul@lemmy.ml 8 points 21 hours ago

based man, I’m so sad about this.. hope EU+UA will forge an even more powerful alliance!

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