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Everybody wants to go to heaven. Most people don't want to go today.
Eloquently put.
I have already made peace with the fact that I will die some day, but there is no need to rush it.
If 7/11 is open 24 hours a day, why do they have locks on the doors?
because they don't want to elect a new pope every week. it's not like they grow on trees 😄
Life is a gift from God and should be preserved. Chasing death and risks has little to do with Christian values.
But if someone wanted to kill you, isn't that just part of God's plan?
Catholics believe in free will. You're free to struggle against challenges. God is not a puppeteer you have to obey to.
It is difficult to replace leadership. Even if there is an established process, it is difficult to replace leadership.
Non-violence is preached for change but we might not have had BLM protests if MLK wasn't shot. There might have been less protections for pedophile priests if the pope during that scandal was shot. We might not have our minority generals and navy officers fired if BLM was violent.
Same reason true believers look when crossing the road - they don't actually believe.
Believing in god does not mean one believes nothing bad can happen to them.
You either believe god has a plan for you or you don't.
The vast majority of believers believe god's plan includes free will. God may know the future, but we can certainly agree that we do not.
By the logic you seem to be presenting, why would believers take any action whatsoever?
Exactly. If they are destined to get hit by a bus or not, it doesn't matter, God wills that they will or won't. So why bother looking when crossing the road?
Believers still understand intuitively just as you do that people who don't look before they cross tend to get hit more often. Whether you call it "god's will" or "just the way things are" has no bearing on the fact that it is prudent to look before you leap.
Your argument applies equally to non-believers. If a freak accident might kill you despite your best efforts, why bother trying to protect yourself at all?
The reason your argument is fallacious is also the same whether you believe in god or not: the future isn't knowable.
the future isn’t knowable.
And therefore God cannot know, therefore he cannot have a plan.
A bit off-topic, but a completely understandable theology. I personally don't find it meaningful to speculate about what god 'knows', since god is beyond all things.
In any case I'm glad you understand why believers tend to look before they cross the road.
They also believe you only get into heaven if you are free of sin. Make of that what you will.
this post was submitted on 23 Feb 2025
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