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[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 297 points 5 months ago

If you're still using Chrome, do yourself a favour and install Firefox.

[-] nahostdeutschland@feddit.org 219 points 5 months ago

Let's be honest: Everything that might be "worse" or "annoying" in Firefox for someone is not relevant in comparison to "no working adblocker available". A browser without adblock is unusable

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 56 points 5 months ago

True, but if an adblocker no longer works on a specific browser, change your browser! I started using Netscape back in '94, and lost count on how many browsers I've tested and used in the past... Holy shit, 30+ years!!

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 31 points 5 months ago

30+ years!

.....fuck off, '94 wasn't 30.... counts on fingers several times

.....Shit.....

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I know... Jurassic Park is 33 years this year. It would be like watching a movie from the 60' when it was released.

We're old, friend.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

I've never hated my life more than right now...

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 28 points 5 months ago

In the past 10 years it's pretty much just been Firefox, Safari, Explorer/Edge, and Chrome. 99% of browsers are just skinned Chrome. Even Edge now. Opera's engine died in 2013.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

99% if browsers are just skinned Chrome.

Yup. Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox, only because it's not built on Chromium.

[-] AJ1@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Hence, the reason I originally suggested to use Firefox

Just FYI, the word "hence" literally means "for this reason". So you just said "for this reason the reason" lol.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Chill dude, I’m just going to the ATM machine to put in my PIN number to take out some money. 🤙

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[-] kat@orbi.camp 6 points 5 months ago

Main reason I don't is cuz:

https://grapheneos.org/usage

Avoid Gecko-based browsers like Firefox as they're currently much more vulnerable to exploitation and inherently add a huge amount of attack surface. Gecko doesn't have a WebView implementation (GeckoView is not a WebView implementation), so it has to be used alongside the Chromium-based WebView rather than instead of Chromium, which means having the remote attack surface of two separate browser engines instead of only one. Firefox / Gecko also bypass or cripple a fair bit of the upstream and GrapheneOS hardening work for apps. Worst of all, Firefox does not have internal sandboxing on Android. This is despite the fact that Chromium semantic sandbox layer on Android is implemented via the OS isolatedProcess feature, which is a very easy to use boolean property for app service processes to provide strong isolation with only the ability to communicate with the app running them via the standard service API. Even in the desktop version, Firefox's sandbox is still substantially weaker (especially on Linux) and lacks full support for isolating sites from each other rather than only containing content as a whole. The sandbox has been gradually improving on the desktop but it isn't happening for their Android browser yet.

[-] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago

This only applies to android, not desktop use, and you couldn’t use uBlock on mobile chrome anyway so it is simply not relevant.

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[-] cupcakezealot 63 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile ublock origin works fine in Fennec/Firefox Android.

[-] sma3in@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

LibreWolf if you want security, privacy and freedom

https://librewolf.net/

[-] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago
[-] nnullzz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Thanks for this!! I became spoiled with Arc’s UI, but it’s a Chrome based browser. This looks like it’s the same experience without the bs.

[-] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah. Zen is a bit newer and I’d say not quite as slick an experience yet, but it has come a long way in the last couple months and is getting very good

[-] bilb@lem.monster 5 points 5 months ago

I've liked this one lately.

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[-] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 37 points 5 months ago

It's a good thing I stayed loyal to Firefox. Mainly due to my dislike of change lol, but I was forced to use Chrome and it felt ominous with its owner being Google.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

I switched to Firefox the morning they disabled uBlock Origin.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I never left Firefox. It's a fantastic browser.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately, there are only 3 companies developing browsers right now: Google, Apple and Mozilla.

Apple's browsers are only available on Apple platforms. In fact, if you're on iOS you have no choice, you have to use Safari. Even browsers labelled as "Chrome" or "Firefox" are actually Safari under the hood on iOS. But, on any non Apple platform, you can't use Safari.

Google is an ad company, so they don't want to allow ad blockers on their browser. So, it's a matter of time before every kind of ad blocking is disabled for Chrome users.

Firefox is almost entirely funded by Google, so there's a limit as to what they can do without the funding getting cut off. They seem to be trying to find a way forward without Google, but the result, if anything is as bad as Google if not worse:

"investing in privacy-respecting advertising to grow new revenue in the near term; developing trustworthy, open source AI to ensure technical and product relevance in the mid term;"

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-leadership-growth-planning-updates/

All these other browser people like are basically reskinned versions of Chrome or Firefox. They have a handful of people working on them. To actually develop a modern browser you need a big team. A modern browser basically has to be an OS capable of running everything from a 3d game engine, to a word processor, to a full featured debugger.

It looks like it's only a matter of time before there will be 0 browsers capable of blocking ads, because the only two companies that make multi-platform browsers depend on ads for their revenue, and both of them will have enormous expenses because they're obsessed with stupid projects like AI.

[-] miridius@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Apple has a conflict of interest too: they need to keep safari gimped so that users have to install apps instead of using PWAs, so that Apple can keep getting 30% of the app sales.

As a result, Safari is terrible and very far behind in standards. It's the new internet explorer.

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 14 points 5 months ago
[-] TIN@feddit.uk 10 points 5 months ago

I still find it interesting that the Vanadium browser in Grapheneos is Chromium based, with no possibility of extensions. I know this is for security reasons but it feels odd to still use chrome on my phone and Firefox everywhere else.

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 13 points 5 months ago

I just use a Firefox derivative there as well, because of Ublock. Tried Vanadium but the adblocking was just not good.

[-] TIN@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago

Which one are you using? I was looking at ironfox

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