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Summary

Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to "Russian aggression" and prefers calling it the "Ukraine conflict."

This shift follows Trump's peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine's President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a "dictator."

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

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[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 12 points 15 hours ago

it increases the number of people that want to blow up america every day. i bet americans abroad will have a hard time getting food in foreign countries where the cook did not spit on it.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 12 hours ago

That's why you have to travel with candian gear. Just velcro that on your bag.

Great I wanted to suggest kicking the US out, if they want to do it themselves, less potential for (violent) conflicts.

He can try to "blow apart" G7, but since every other member state is very likely not in the best mood towards the USA, it will likely just result in the US being gone, i.e. G6 has been "born".

[-] bruhssa@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

I'd love to ask all of the MAGA heads to just question themselves this: Why go through all of this just to help Putin. Some fucked up shit must go on that Trump risks all of this just for Putin.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 13 points 23 hours ago

Same reason the US helps Israel?

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

The US-Israel alliance has been a disgusting and embarrassing debacle

[-] SilentKettle@lemmy.wtf 76 points 1 day ago

It's almost as if he works for Putin

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe he does.

Maybe Putin's colleagues found out something interesting about Trump back in the days, and made him an offer he could not refuse - "go and become King of America, we'll even help you a little, but you'll serve us".

Wild speculation, of course. But he definitely doesn't have national interest burdening his mind in any way or manner.

P.S. If I worked in the Secret Service, I would use my telescope to watch birds fly and tree leaves wobble. Even if there was a remote weapons station turning towards my client, or a wire guided object coming in - I would hardly notice until impact.

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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Blow it apart. America doesn't belong with its former Allies.

Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.

Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

According to Alnur Mussayev, 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, Don was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename Krasnov.

Drop the USA and change the metting to the G6 + California until Jan 2029.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?

Just doublechecking my premises, there's this from Investopedia:

The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world's largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis...

Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago
[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.

If China's willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China's goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.

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[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

China would have to do a whole lot more than just "not support russia". As a starter, they'd need to start being transparent, honest, and not censor the ever loving shit out of all information from their country. Then they could stop genociding minorities.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

The G8 already included Russia and the US, with Russia definitely being worse than China, even before the 2014 Ukraine invasion... And honestly, has the US ever been any better?

It's an economic alliance more than anything.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What? Hell no! The Orange KGB agent and Leon Hitler want the US to be like China.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Even better, South Korea

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The G6 should incorporate Ukraine, Taiwan, and Panama. Then extend a treaty of friendship to Blue States within America. America clearly has no (good) future, and the world will change because of it. Might as well make the most of it.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 141 points 2 days ago

Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse...

[-] towelie@lemm.ee 83 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately it's likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn back its status as a trustworthy ally. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats against allies and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can't really establish a basis of trust.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I wish you were wrong.

I guess I can pray for balkanization and that our further allies take pity on whatever Blue City State I end up being a member of.

[-] krebssteven@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Precisely this. Once this trust has been lost and the 'G6' face a world where they cannot count on the US, geopolicies will change and the US will not be perceived trustworthy anytime soon. As it stands, it will be considered yet another global power with anti-democratic tendencies, policies that endanger world piece and disrupt the common pursuit for prosperity and is considered best kept in check.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago

I'm a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

If you think any fact will affect the American public, you are much more optimistic than me.

Republicans will blame Soros, o Pelosi, or AOC and trump will have even more support.

[-] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's assuming they even pay attention to anything international other than Ukraine or Israel (many don't).

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American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, PLEASE! The rich fucks need to start feeling the consequences of this bullshit where it hurts. It's the only domestic demographic that can offer enough pressure to motivate this administration to change their behavior.

[-] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 125 points 2 days ago

Amen. Also American. Cut America off. Do not stand for this stupidity. If American voters regain their minds in 2 or 4 years, we can all figure out how to move on. If not, America doesn't deserve your grace and goodwill when it's showing none. Ostracize us for the good of the world.

Fucking clown.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago

Another American here. Yeah, we’re not Europe’s friend anymore. I hate it, but it’s true. Dear Leader has made it abundantly clear that unless you are somehow enriching him and/or his billionaire cabinet, he’s not interested in being your friend. You can hold up as many past agreements and treaties his predecessors signed and it won’t mean jack shit to him. Putin is his daddy because Putin loves oligarchs, and wants to be an oligarch sooooooo bad.

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[-] SnotFlickerman 285 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.

The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world's economics as well, and that's clearly the long-term goal.

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[-] jve@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 132 points 2 days ago

This just in, the known russian puppet, trump, is a russian puppet.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Kick us out, Trump is not in the G7 to do anything but fuck it up. Being a self interested stakeholder is normal but he's not self interested. He is clearly under Putin's influence.

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