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It isn’t racist enough, so he has to take over and train it on nazi propaganda.

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 188 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

not even one-third of the valuation openai thinks they're worth (up to 340b). and still below what investors thought in 2022 (157b). src

i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit and he's giving up on making his own.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

I thought this was because he’s still pissy they cut him out, but I guess his reasons can be multifaceted

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit

Well, to be 100% fair, it's all total bullshit.

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[-] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 100 points 2 months ago

Elon’s $97.4B hostile takeover bid for OpenAI is less about “safety” and more about a billionaire’s corporate tantrum. The offer reeks of desperation—a laughable lowball for a company valued at $340B, dressed as altruism.

Altman’s clapback—“buy Twitter for $9.74B”—is the perfect middle finger to Musk’s flailing empire. Remember when X became a $44B dumpster fire? Now he wants to drag OpenAI into his orbit of mismanaged toys.

This feud isn’t about AI ethics—it’s two tech oligarchs weaponizing legal battles and PR stunts. Musk’s “open-source” crusade is safety theater while his own xAI hoards code. The only winner here? Lawyers billing hourly as the world burns.

[-] boramalper@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

To be clear (and as far as I understand), it’s not a hostile takeover bid because it cannot be: OpenAI is not a public company and thus doesn’t have a fiduciary duty to thousands to millions of shareholders but instead to a handful of big investors who can decide for themselves whether they want that Elon’s money or not. So this isn’t similar to what Twitter had been through but more like Elon teasing Altman I believe.

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

The distinction you’re making is valid but misses the forest for the trees. Whether OpenAI is public or not, Musk’s bid is a textbook power play, not a genuine offer. The lack of fiduciary duty doesn’t erase the intent—it amplifies it. This isn’t about shareholder obligations; it’s about Musk leveraging his wealth to reshape AI governance in his image.

Comparing this to Altman’s jab at Twitter isn’t apples-to-apples. Altman’s point was rhetorical, highlighting Musk’s track record of overpromising and underdelivering. The “open-source” crusade Musk touts is hollow when xAI remains proprietary.

This isn’t about legality or structure—it’s about influence and control. Dressing it up as altruism insults anyone paying attention.

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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago

Hahah he really hates Altman's guts. Good. Love to see those two expend their energy on each other rather than on fucking all of us.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately, they can multitask

[-] jrs100000@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Musk isnt very good at that. He seems to Godzilla's his way through one project at a time, while interns clean up behind him.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Still slows down some of their other goals. Attention and resources aren't infinite. The more they wear themselves thin on things that don't matter / have less bad outcomes, the better

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately they can multitask

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

You guys both posted it within a few seconds of each other judging by my app updating the time. Impressive.

[-] splinter@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately, they can multitask

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 75 points 2 months ago

He bought Twitter for 44 billion... and the US presidency for 290 million.

That is the single most dystopian shit I have ever heard. The idea that people and countries are so dirt cheap and companies are orders of magnitude more valuable is a thing that should damn their souls to hell.

You how bad this is affecting me? I've been an atheist and anti-death penality most of my life... Musk has for the past while made me think that the death penalty needs to be applied to people like him (and Israeli war criminals) and not to common crooks and common murderers. He is even making me want a hell to exist so people like him can burn in it.

[-] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 22 points 2 months ago

and the US presidency for 290 million.

So, about a dollar per American.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 months ago

Shortly after the news was announced, Altman posted on X: “no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

If only their slapfight meant something good for the world. At least, I don't see everything collected in Musk's hands.

[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Lmao "Twitter"

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

He can afford to pay twice the price of Twitter because he's using government money. Remember he barely swung the 44 billion for Twitter. Now he's buying something for more than double that? After putting code into the Treasury department computers to hide transactions?

Lmao.

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[-] Canigou@jlai.lu 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Where is the "hide Musk/DOGE/Trump related posts" button ?

EDIT : Found it ! (Damn, Lemmy is awesome 😊)

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 65 points 2 months ago

Bro, I think you just wiped out your entire front page.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

They're also hiding their head in the sand, which might be a bigger issue.

[-] Akuma@pawb.social 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There are two sides to this. There's yours, and then there is self-care and self-protection. Being constantly bombarded with this shit, these issues, problems and the world going down hill while you as an individual can't even begin to influence or have any kind of impact on them can and will wreck your mental health.

In the end it needs balance. Don't stick your head in the sand, but also don't drown in the never ending despair that is the flood of bad news in modern media.

[-] Canigou@jlai.lu 15 points 2 months ago

I'm still reading the old school press and listening to the radio. I'm just not on lemmy to read about it AGAIN... On top of that, it's mostly absurd and inaplicable announcements. They crave attention so much, it's painful to listen. Look at Musk's video gaming scheme. Just pathetic...

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[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

When it's actual news, I'll hear about it regardless.

I'm not going to perseverate over every headline, I have a life to live. The media is actively trying to piss us off, they'll skew and distort and all but fabricate to keep us angry and engaged.

I'm not doing it. I can't recall a single time in my life that keeping up to date up to the hour has actually improved anything for me. Sitting around just knowing stuff is happening isn't going to change my life for the better.

I live in a safe republican state and a leans Republican district. I could send a letter to my senator, call my representative, spend hours of my time just worried about something, and still, they'll vote how the party wants them to. Being informed and doing the things I'm supposed to do won't change anything.

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[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 33 points 2 months ago

But remember, all of his wealth is only potential, not realized! He ackshually can't afford to make the world a better place!

[-] maplebar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The best and most affordable way for Elon Musk to "make the world a better place" would be to drop dead.

[-] Xuderis@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

I guess grok isn’t doing so well.

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 months ago

YES!

Finally a way to destroy the AI hype.

Maybe the man is good for something besides wasting oxygen after all.

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[-] tonyn@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago

OpenAI's Yahoo! moment. In a decade it'll be worthless.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago

This is corporate trolling. Open AI is trying to go public soon, and Elon did this to fuck with that.

Massive oversimplification but basically: In the United States, you are required to take the best offer when selling a company, unless you can argue in court that you had reasons not to sell to whomever placed the highest bid. Because of this offer, as open AI attempts to go public, they will have to either to be close to Elon's bid, forced to sell to him, go to court and fight him ther, or be forced to remain private.

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[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 months ago

even if openai are assholes, chatgpt is still useful for things as long as you dont put too much trust in it. If that fucker buys it they will turn it into racist shitspewing garbage. Without it, regular people will have no decent or easy way to utilize ai and this new tech will benefit only the rich who will use it to oppress us even worse.

Stinky isnt an idiot, i wish he was. Anything he buys he can and will use to cause harm to us. So this would be bad for us all.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

Regular users can use Gemini, Deepseek, Meta AI, and there will probably be many more services in the future.

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[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

"NaziAI" has a real ring to it.

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[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 months ago

Couldn't even pay for twitter himself, that broke ass

[-] beliquititious 23 points 2 months ago

“It’s time for OpenAI to return to the open-source, safety-focused force for good it once was,” Musk said in a statement provided by his lawyer Marc Toberoff to The Wall Street Journal. “We will make sure that happens.”

I'll believe that when I see it.

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[-] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

OK, what's the fediverse alternative for ChatGPT?

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 2 months ago

Running the models locally.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago

How to become a millionaire: Start with 97.4 Billion.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Is he going to buy a “founder” clause in the contract?

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[-] lovelywon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

He offered to buy it with someone else's money and take the credit

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