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Saturday SOTD Thread - February 8th, 2025 (#607) [Atlas Shaves Edition]
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Huzzah!
What's next?
- lather: Bufflehead Soap Co - Elephant Walk
Atlas daily points: 6 points for daily theme soap +1 for crossposting on lemmy and reddit
Atlas cumulative points: 34
There it is!
what a flex 😎
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Feb. 8, 2025
- Brush: Dogwood Handcrafts Dark Red 28mm DG B11 Badger
- Razor: Snail Forge 8/8 Quarter Hollow Blade with Fancy Grind
- Blade: Edge By Griffiths [6]
- Lather: Catie’s Bubbles - Revolution - Soap
- Post Shave: Catie’s Bubbles - Revolution - Aftershave
- Fragrance: Catie’s Bubbles - Revolution
Airbudding today. I could have fought for a CB bought it was a debate on whether Neroli was considered Orange Blossom even though it’s made from Orange Blossom. But in the end I’m just here to have fun and to play within the rules as they are written. The CB streak is up to 41 days and I know I have one for tomorrow that works!
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Today’s points.
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Half scent notes 0.
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Airbud 1.
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Cross posting 1.
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Good neighborhood 1.
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Day total 3.
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Overall total 33.
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Catie’s count.
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Day 1 Florentine Fern.
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Day 2 Ménage a Lavande.
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Day 3 Valley of Fire.
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Day 4 Lancaster Leather.
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Day 5 Le Piment de La Vie.
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Day 6 Azure.
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Day 7 Waterlyptus.
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Day 8 Revolution.
Décadi 20 Pluviôse an 233 de la Révolution, jour de Serpette
- Preshave: Proraso White Preshave
- Brush: Zenith 506U XS Horse 🐎
- Razor: Koraat 14.2 Straight Razor
- Lather: Le Père Lucien Narcisse
- Postshave: Naissance 702 Witch Hazel
- Postshave: Zingari Man Bon Monsieur Recovery Splash
- Postshave: Nivea After Shave Balm
A good Saturday afternoon shave – close and comfortable. Bon Monsieur seems to fit with almost anything.
Have a good evening!
Saturday, February 08, 2025: Atlas Shaves 2 - Day 8
- Brush: Omega - 10048 boar
- Razor: Gillette - Old Type
- Blade: Personna - Lab Blue (2)
- Lather: Catie's Bubbles - DFTR
- Post Shave: Catie's Bubbles - DFTR Aftershave splash
- Post Shave: Stirling - Glacial Unscented Aftershave balm
- Fragrance: Catie's Bubbles - DFTR EdP
Airbud for me today, so I went with the full DFTR trick for the first time. Its boozy, figgy, woody, green fragrance was a great start to the day. I'm glad I brought this in after DJ piqued my curiosity. Great stuff.
+1 point for the Airbud
+1 point for cross-posting
+1 point for engaging yesterday
+1 point for noticing an error in today's post from u/Priusaurus
Total points (32 previous + 4): 36
~~Airbud retracted, I'll be back tonight with an on-theme shave.~~
Alright, I'll play it straight. Airbud today.
Tabac to the Future!
February 9, 2025
- Brush: AP Shave Co. Handle w/26mm Maggard SHD
- Razor: Blackland Era - Level 3 SB
- Blade: Personna 74 (16)
- Lather: Maurer & Wirtz - Tabac - Soap
- Post Shave: Pinaud - Clubman Musk - Aftershave
Shave #2 for today.
It came to light that "Neroli" is code for "Orange Blossom". This brings Tabac into play with the following scent notes:
Musk, Jasmine, Sandalwood, Rose, Tobacco, Oakmoss, Vanilla, Tonka Bean, Lemon, Aldehydes, Lavender, Neroli, Orris Root, Bergamot, Amber, Pine, Carnation
That's 3 scent notes in common with Elephant Walk.
Now for the elephant (walk) in the room -- Neroli vs Orange Blossom. I have two bits of proof that they are the same. Some say they're different, and that's their opinion, although I doubt those people have smelled them side-by-side (nor have I).
Proof #1: https://mamabearssoaps.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1380
This soap is called "Orange Blossom", but the scent notes are "petitgrain, bergamot, neroli, jasmine, sandalwood". No orange blossom, but it does have neroli.
Proof #2: 
Our own Catie's Bubbles says they are the same. Neroli is code for Orange Blossom.
If there's a legitimate argument that I'm wrong, then I'm ready to accept my fate. It's been fun! I'll probably be going out in the next week or so anyway because of travel. I've really enjoyed this contest so far. Everyone has been cordial and there have been some great discussions.
| Category | ∑ | Δ |
|---|---|---|
| Daily theme soap | 0 | 0 |
| Artisan | 4 | 0 |
| Scenter | 6 | 0 |
| Half of the scent notes | 10 | 2 |
| Airbudding the day | 0 | 0 |
| Cross posting | 8 | +1 |
| Snitching | 1 | 0 |
| Snitching incorrectly | 0 | 0 |
| Participation Trophy | 5 | +1 |
| Total | 34 | +4 |
This is one shady line of argument my friend!
There are plenty of references to the contrary, including the first one you checked immediately,
and misrepresent:
The difference between how neroli and orange blossom smell and why they are referred to with different names, is a result of the process of extraction that is used to obtain the oil from the blooms. Neroli is extracted by steam distillation and orange blossom is extracted via a process of enfleurage (rarely used nowadays due to prohibitive costs) or solvent extraction.
The source of your second "proof", when asked, agreed that there are differences in potency at least, as you know but leave out. This is part two of your screenshot:
and your first "proof", well, that's just Imhofing. I think you should go back to airbudding.
Its a shaving competition, not a fancy fragrance competition. The culture in this realm of smells, as shown by my proofs, is to use them interchangeably!
You do you. This seems quite obviously wrong to me.
I believe your claim that I'm breaking a rule is incorrect, and that you should lose all points for the day.
The vibe until yesterday has been great, and I agree with you here.
If Chiseled Face counts for LASSCO, then why can't Neroli count for Orange Blossom, especially with evidence that it is often used interchangeably?
Either way, our lord and savior @enndeegee@sub.wetshaving.social has reliably and consistently said "if that's the consensus". I don't think there is a consensus one way or the other, which is unfortunate, but also means that no rule has been broken. In discord there seemed to be a lot of excitement that Tabac was acceptable, followed by one or two people saying they disagree, followed by some people getting scared and taking an airbud. Proof was found that supports both opinions... therefore no consensus.
Also, unrelated, what is imhofing? I can't find anything online about it.
If Chiseled Face counts for LASSCO, then why can't Neroli count for Orange Blossom, especially with evidence that it is often used interchangeably?
This is a misrepresentation. Ron is an artisan who made both soaps. The brands don't matter. Ron counts, not Chiseled Face. Just reading the rules, no trick, no interpretation.
Also, unrelated, what is imhofing?
"Disproving" something with a bogus argument. Senator Imhofe threw a snowball in the capitol to prove that it's cold outside and therefore global warming didn't exist. You showed evidence of two people conflating neroli and orange blossom, when that doesn't mean anything. The two substances are produced from the same ingredients, but differently. Scotch whiskey and Bavarian beer have the same ingredients too, are they the same?
Often used interchangeably
Ok, but that isn't the question, is it?
I believe your claim that I'm breaking a rule is incorrect, and that you should lose all points for the day.
Really? Low blow
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Atlas Shaves II - Day 8
- Brush: Dogwood Handcrafts 28mm Declaration Grooming B13 Badger Knot
- Razor: Mühle Rocca R94
- Blade: Gillette 7 O’Clock Super Stainless (Green) [1]
- Lather: Gentleman’s Nod - Jackie - Soap
- Post Shave: Gentleman’s Nod - Jackie - Aftershave
- Fragrance: Gentleman’s Nod - Jackie - Eau de Parfum
The official marketing scent notes for Jackie are just over the 50% minimum for the theme soap today. It's also a great fougère, so no complaints from me.
[JACKIE 42]
T - peppermint, pineapple, lime, green notes
M - geranium, lavender, jasmine, Orange blossom
D - tobacco, amber woods, sandalwood, musks
| Category | ∑ | Δ |
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| Daily theme soap | 12 | 0 |
| Artisan | 16 | 0 |
| Scenter | 0 | 0 |
| Half of the scent notes | 4 | +2 |
| Airbudding the day | 0 | 0 |
| Cross posting | 8 | +1 |
| Snitching | 0 | 0 |
| Snitching incorrectly | 0 | 0 |
| Goody Two-Shoes | 5 | +1 |
| Total | 45 | +4 |
That brush handle is gorgeous!
Pictures don't really do it justice.
February 8, 2025
- Brush: Wolf Whiskers – "Gianmaria" w/Maggard 26mm Synthetic
- Razor: Blackland Era - Level 3 SB
- Blade: Personna 74 (15)
- Lather: Spearhead Shaving - Seaforth! Leather - Soap
- Post Shave: Spearhead - Seaforth! Leather – Aftershave
- Post Shave: Goodfellow & Co. - Face Lotion - Kelp & Sea Mineral
- Fragrance: Spearhead – Seaforth! Leather – EdP
$Discord
~~Airbud. This was a really difficult soap for a lot of people, and I'm surprised to see two successful non-airbud shaves so far. This contest certainly rewards large soap collections! (and non-travelers).~~
~~| Category | ∑ | Δ | | :---------------------: | -----: | -----: | | Daily theme soap | 0 | 0 | | Artisan | 4 | 0 | | Scenter | 6 | 0 | | Half of the scent notes | 8 | 0| | Airbudding the day | 1 | +1 | | Cross posting | 8 | +1 | | Snitching | 1 | 0 | | Snitching incorrectly | 0 | 0 | | Participation Trophy | 5 | +1 | | Total | 33 | +3 |~~
Some new shit has come to light. I'll be doing a second shave in order to avoid airbudding today.
Tabac to the future!
Day 08 of Atlas Shaves 2 – Electric Boogaloo Sat 08 Feb 2025
- Brush: Zenith r/Wetshaving exclusive MOAR BOAR (31 mm × 57 mm bleached boar)
- Razor: Dovo Bismarck 2 (7/8", full hollow, carbon steel)
- Lather: Boendoebaard – Woesteling
- Post Shave: Stirling Soap Co. – Varen
- Fragrance: Brut – Original
Today's theme soap is tough! This second week is starting like the first. I had already resigned myself to air budding the day when @BeerEater on discord pointed out that Brut is a 50% scent notes match. So, Brut to the rescue again! With jasmine, lavender and orange blossom, Woesteling, the Brut dupe gives me two points:
Bufflehead Soap Co. - Elephant Walk
Notes: Lavender, Jasmine, Blood Orange, Orange Blossom, Teakwood
I wonder how bad of a bloodbath today will become.
Road to Victory:
| Category | ∑ | Δ |
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| Daily theme soap | 0 | 0 |
| Artisan | 20 | 0 |
| Scenter | 0 | 0 |
| Half of the scent notes | 6 | +2 |
| Airbudding the day | 0 | 0 |
| Cross posting | 8 | +1 |
| Snitching | 3 | 0 |
| Snitching incorrectly | 0 | 0 |
| Goody Two-Shoes | 7 | +1 |
| Total | 44 | +4 |
Tomorrow's Atlas Shaves theme: Cold River Soap Works - Vetiver Moderne
Vetiver, Peppercorn, Sandalwood, Citrus, Plum
this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2025
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