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submitted 4 days ago by FenrirIII@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25133597

Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It's nice and cozy here, we do have some "bad parts of town" but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

There's much more around as well!

Obligatory, fuck Spez

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Welcome to lemmy newbies, here is your first official feud post.

Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided!

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Um no, most don't want just more authoritarianism. Tankies are genocide deniers or look the other way on the many human rights abuses whenever the government doing it is China or Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

I'm not gonna be equipped to make a nuanced and detailed take right now but in my experience hexbears are alright, fun to talk to, I can learn things from them, and at worst they're spicy.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

and at worst they're spicy.

Did not realize looking the other way on human rights abuses or denying genocides of China/Russia was just "a little spicy"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Bro over here just propagandaposting

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[-] TheFin@leminal.space 11 points 2 days ago

didn't realize that reddit actually did me a favour by giving me the boot. lemmy is way better

[-] clot27@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Days since Ive seen posts mocking tankies: 0

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

exactly, and the high amount of upvote is quite surprising

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If just one person says your instance is a Tankie instance, it's just a one off. If everyone says/agrees your instance is a Tankie instance, it might just be a Tankie instance.

[-] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Authoritarian bootlickers is ironic, while at leats the Americans are watch their country go full authoritarian fascist right now.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

And actively defend when their preferred side talks about having the biggest military budget and loves war as a method of spurring the economy!

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[-] Generica@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

OMG. I just discovered Lemmy yesterday after being a Redditor for a decade. I deleted my Reddit account after the insane level of suppression I've endured over the past year and was all set to go cold turkey when I found out about Lemmy! Praise the sweet lil' six pound, eight ounce baby Jesus!!

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[-] kaamkiya@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Is Lemmy.ml really that bad? I haven't spent enough time on lemmy to know yet.

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago

Yeah, if you're pathologically afraid of actual communist theory.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Um no, you and your fellow Tankies support Authoritarian communism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.

I for one wouldn't mind seeing the fall of capitalism in my lifetime, but not to replace it with just another flavor of authoritarianism.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, go post anything negative about China and it'll be removed under Rule 1 guaranteed

Go post about tiananmen square or the uyghur genocide or even just you don't feel like people are very free in China with all the censorship

ETA:

Oor even that Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked, that always gets them lmao

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Tankie Triad?" Really? This is just McCarthyian LARPing, you don't have to constantly saber-rattle towards the Marxist-friendly instances.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 3 days ago

Hopefully .world will serve as a quarantine instance for all the cringe-ass former redditors who love strawmen and reductionism and lame as fuck sayings like "tankie triad" and "narwhal bacon"

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[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

In my book, it isn't "tankie" until they are the kind who claim all the authoritarian regimes that were never democratic to be "communist".
You can't have communism without democracy, that's the whole deal, it's in the freaking name, community.

Claiming to be "communist" when your regime is authoritarian is like claiming to make soup without liquids.
You can replace water with other stuff like broth, or even beer and wine, to make soup. But you need a liquid to make soup. That's soup's whole deal. Without a liquid as the base, or if you take out all the liquid after doing it, whatever you are doing, whatever you call it, it ain't soup.
For example, portable soup may have "soup" in the name, but it isn't soup. It's dehydrated food. It may have been soup once, but it isn't soup.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

The thing is, AES states are democratic. They usually don't have competing liberal parties like Western countries, but instead a more comprehensive form based on electing delegates. For example, the USSR functioned like this:

For further reading, Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan.

Further, the "point" of Communism isn't Democracy to begin with. Communism is a prediction, not a perfect society created in a lab, of what will necessarily happen as humanity develops. Marx predicted humanity will move towards a fully publicly owned and planned economy with democratic control because industry gets larger and more complex over time. I think if you take away that Communism is based on analysis and not on some Utopia, you take away the reason why Communism makes sense to begin with.

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[-] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If I were criticizing various nations more than the U.S., I wouldn't shame people for "authoritarian bootlicking". Glass houses and all that.

And critically, not just since Trump. As soon as the ink dried on the Nazi surrender, the US and OSS/CIA armed and funded every fascist they could find since fascists are the most dedicated anti-communists.

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[-] dx1@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In the past week I caught a 7 day ban for "misinformation" (x3, then for reposting a link to the mod logs, "skirting the rules", "repeated offenses" etc.) from /c/WorldNews for accusing Democrats of being complicit in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. An actual fact - tens of billions of dollars in arms sent to an ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing by Biden. No problems like that on lemmy.ml. That really says it all for me. Lemmy's basically just a fediverse reddit, with the same mod structure - if mods abuse their power, and admins don't keep them in check, it's time to ditch the instance.

By the way, Lemmy itself was created by Dessalines, the admin of lemmy.ml. Who I collaborated with briefly on building some of the UI that you're using right now to read this. Very thorough guy.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

.world needs a targeted marketing campaign, we just need to point to the very public mod log. The mods at .world do all the work for us lol.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 days ago

I caught a 7 day ban in microblog memes for "whataboutism" after I pointed out that leftists were not responsible for the democrat's loss, their actions would have been wildly unpopular whether we told them or not.

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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 81 points 3 days ago

From what I can tell, this tankie stuff is bullshit. In the years I've been here, I've seen close to zero 'tankie' content from any of these supposedly tankie instances. There's like maybe one or two people on those instances who might fit the description if you search for them. Meanwhile, literally every day there are posts spitting on these supposed tankie instances. (And actually, it's again a very small number of people complaining - but they put their crap into cute memes to get traction).

I don't like the idea of shouting slurs at entire instances. In my view, if you hate those instances so much - just block them. Problem solved. No need to spew hate all over lemmy.

Again, despite claims to the contrary, tankie for most people means "anything left of the Democrats, or willingness to break with US foreign policy."

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 48 points 3 days ago

Love everything about reddit but inexplicably wish to leave it?

Hate the idea of an english speaking internet that doesn't slavishly adhere to the party line of the US alphabet agencies?

Do you think the parable of the nazi bar is bunch of hokum?

Do you have shrieking anger towards people who refused to support genocide while having shrieking anger at (usually the same) people rejecting decades long debunked accusations of genocide made by the perpetrators of aforementioned genocide?

Join the lemmyverse! We have racism! We have homophobia! We have trans misogyny! We have daily 5 minutes hate!

And if anyone tells you different, have you considered they're a paid shill by the notorious gay sex haver Putler??

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