Welcome to lemmy newbies, here is your first official feud post.
Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided!
Welcome to lemmy newbies, here is your first official feud post.
Solidarity amongst the instances! We will not be divided!
Um no, most don't want just more authoritarianism. Tankies are genocide deniers or look the other way on the many human rights abuses whenever the government doing it is China or Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
Lol.
I'm not gonna be equipped to make a nuanced and detailed take right now but in my experience hexbears are alright, fun to talk to, I can learn things from them, and at worst they're spicy.
and at worst they're spicy.
Did not realize looking the other way on human rights abuses or denying genocides of China/Russia was just "a little spicy"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
didn't realize that reddit actually did me a favour by giving me the boot. lemmy is way better
Authoritarian bootlickers is ironic, while at leats the Americans are watch their country go full authoritarian fascist right now.
And actively defend when their preferred side talks about having the biggest military budget and loves war as a method of spurring the economy!
Is Lemmy.ml really that bad? I haven't spent enough time on lemmy to know yet.
Yeah, if you're pathologically afraid of actual communist theory.
Um no, you and your fellow Tankies support Authoritarian communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
I for one wouldn't mind seeing the fall of capitalism in my lifetime, but not to replace it with just another flavor of authoritarianism.
Yes, go post anything negative about China and it'll be removed under Rule 1 guaranteed
Go post about tiananmen square or the uyghur genocide or even just you don't feel like people are very free in China with all the censorship
ETA:
Oor even that Russia invaded Ukraine unprovoked, that always gets them lmao
OMG. I just discovered Lemmy yesterday after being a Redditor for a decade. I deleted my Reddit account after the insane level of suppression I've endured over the past year and was all set to go cold turkey when I found out about Lemmy! Praise the sweet lil' six pound, eight ounce baby Jesus!!
If I were criticizing various nations more than the U.S., I wouldn't shame people for "authoritarian bootlicking". Glass houses and all that.
And critically, not just since Trump. As soon as the ink dried on the Nazi surrender, the US and OSS/CIA armed and funded every fascist they could find since fascists are the most dedicated anti-communists.
"Tankie Triad?" Really? This is just McCarthyian LARPing, you don't have to constantly saber-rattle towards the Marxist-friendly instances.
In my book, it isn't "tankie" until they are the kind who claim all the authoritarian regimes that were never democratic to be "communist".
You can't have communism without democracy, that's the whole deal, it's in the freaking name, community.
Claiming to be "communist" when your regime is authoritarian is like claiming to make soup without liquids.
You can replace water with other stuff like broth, or even beer and wine, to make soup. But you need a liquid to make soup. That's soup's whole deal. Without a liquid as the base, or if you take out all the liquid after doing it, whatever you are doing, whatever you call it, it ain't soup.
For example, portable soup may have "soup" in the name, but it isn't soup. It's dehydrated food. It may have been soup once, but it isn't soup.
The thing is, AES states are democratic. They usually don't have competing liberal parties like Western countries, but instead a more comprehensive form based on electing delegates. For example, the USSR functioned like this:
For further reading, Soviet Democracy by Pat Sloan.
Further, the "point" of Communism isn't Democracy to begin with. Communism is a prediction, not a perfect society created in a lab, of what will necessarily happen as humanity develops. Marx predicted humanity will move towards a fully publicly owned and planned economy with democratic control because industry gets larger and more complex over time. I think if you take away that Communism is based on analysis and not on some Utopia, you take away the reason why Communism makes sense to begin with.
Hopefully .world will serve as a quarantine instance for all the cringe-ass former redditors who love strawmen and reductionism and lame as fuck sayings like "tankie triad" and "narwhal bacon"
In the past week I caught a 7 day ban for "misinformation" (x3, then for reposting a link to the mod logs, "skirting the rules", "repeated offenses" etc.) from /c/WorldNews for accusing Democrats of being complicit in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. An actual fact - tens of billions of dollars in arms sent to an ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing by Biden. No problems like that on lemmy.ml. That really says it all for me. Lemmy's basically just a fediverse reddit, with the same mod structure - if mods abuse their power, and admins don't keep them in check, it's time to ditch the instance.
By the way, Lemmy itself was created by Dessalines, the admin of lemmy.ml. Who I collaborated with briefly on building some of the UI that you're using right now to read this. Very thorough guy.
.world needs a targeted marketing campaign, we just need to point to the very public mod log. The mods at .world do all the work for us lol.
I caught a 7 day ban in microblog memes for "whataboutism" after I pointed out that leftists were not responsible for the democrat's loss, their actions would have been wildly unpopular whether we told them or not.
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