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Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.
It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.
If you read the bill, heavily sponsored by the MPA, part of it is about forcing ISPs (and presumably US based VPNs) to block the DNS/URLs of "foreign criminal" sites.
It's laying the groundwork for a Great American Firewall.
If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.
DoH!
Freedomwall
Wouldn't be the first wall he put up in the name of freedom
Oh no!
Anyway.
You can't legislate piracy away...
But they can make up excuses for their arsenal for whenever they want to ban a site they don't like from common eyes.
"It was banned because it was pornography"
"It was banned because it was displaying pirated content"
"It was banned because it harmed the public good"
They want control over what the common people can see, hear, say, and think.
We only pirate TV because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again...
I used to be perfectly happy with Netflix and Google music + YouTube Red, but corporations were too greedy
I now use a mix of free Kodi TV, patched YouTube apps, rip music off tidal, and self host media on a lifetime premium Plex server.
As has often been reiterated: piracy is a service problem. If what you get by paying more is an inferior service, then people don’t want to pay for that service.
100% true, haven't pirated a single game since I started using Steam and actually having a paycheck since about 10 years ago
If you actually had a catch all service
I believe this used to be called cable tv.
But before you reply, yeah, I know cable didn't get everything. And you had to pay extra for Disney, HBO, etc. And on top of the exorbitant price there were always tons of commercials. That's all true.
But I do remember a time right around 2005, when everyone was saying "if only there were a-la-carte options, for people who only want sports, or only want movies". My point being, there's no winning and the grass is always greener somewhere.
And for what it's worth, I basically agree with you. I use Plex, I have a few friends who also run Plex servers and we all share content. That's the best catch all I've ever found.
The problem with cable was it was not on demand and contained ads.
I would never, ever pay for cable even in today's world if it was $10 a month because of the overwhelming amount of ads.
They don’t care. They don’t want to innovate, they want to force you to pay them for nothing in return.
This falls under enshitification, no?
Yes
Why just pay one service a small fee for ad free streaming, when you can pay a lot of services a large fee for ad supported streaming?
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They already banned pornhub and pornographers. Fascists are going to fash.
I'm curious how effective those bans have been. Is free porn difficult to access in states that have added verification laws or has it only affected the larger players that get attention while the ones that most people don't usually think immediately of fly under the radar?
You hit the nail on the head, it's just the biggest sites
Someone I know told me their usual site is no verification, but sometimes finding content through Google on the big sites triggers an ID verification.
This is dumb considering that these types of streaming sites are how I actually discover anime and become a fan enough that i want to purchase merch. I pay for Crunchy Roll, but sometimes I want to check out stuff from other services. If I had to rely sheerly on legal services I wouldn't watch or discover half of what I did.
Legal services are also pretty inferior. I wanted to watch A certain Scientific Railgun.. Season 1 was dubbed, but season 2 on the service wasn't... I literally had to track it down on some streaming site to get access to what I'm paying for.
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It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.
I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.
Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.
The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.
Shocking, I know.
The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.
Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.
Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.
And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?
But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.
Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.
I remember as kids we shared music by Bluetooth or copying files on a memory stick. You are not stopping that.
I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps
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I would still pirate — but most normie pirates wouldn’t.
.....but why?
Why would I spend money on proprietary software that tracks me and sells my data when it’s trivially easy for me to set up a FOSS alternative and actually own the video files myself.
I’m not rich, in fact I’m under the poverty line, even 5$ a month adds up for me. I see no reason to pay to be tracked.
About 10 years ago, I signed up for a seedbox for torrenting purposes. USD 15/month, which was roughly the same as Netflix at the time. Since then, Netflix has repeatedly raised prices, dropped content, and added ads. On the other hand, I'm still paying $15/month for that seedbox, and they've upgraded my storage capacity and bandwidth allotment multiple times.
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"Effectively kill piracy" - Sure guys, this time it'll work.
This is why you run servers outside of five eye countries
Yeah because pirates are notorious for giving up immediately when you make their jobs a little harder.
I am quite fond of Nyaa :3
Aren't most torrent sites not based in the US to begin with?
This is about foreign websites
It’s going after ISPs, Google, Cloudflare that allow access to them
Also it’s great to see the Democrats prioritizing this atm
Has never stopped the world bully from bullying others: https://legalnewsfeed.com/2024/07/09/z-library-administrators-flee-house-arrest-in-argentina-ahead-of-u-s-extradition/
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There's a part of me that has become annoyed that i'm forced to pay for a vpn to now access the entirety of the internet. I don't blame the vpn provider, though. --Nope, they are not the ones I blame...
Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?
Sounds like their strategy is to force US companies to block access to piracy sites.
I already run my torrent client through a non-US VPN so this can literally be bypassed by adding this to my prowlarr docker compose:
network_mode: service:gluetun
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