Yep, should be standard everywhere
..... for accounts you actually give a shit about
And not via SMS
And not the twitch way, where you have to have in an identifier, your phone number, but using proper, standards ways for it, like TOTP and such
emphasis on the
… for accounts you actually give a shit about
While you are adding this anyway consider using an open source app instead of google auth like aegis. There are many others but I wish I knew about them sooner.
I personally love keeweb. Passwords and 2fa all in one place.
I mean you could argue that defeats the purpose of having 2fa, but it's convenient
It weakens it a bit, but in my opinion it still has strength where it counts. If an attacker gets access to your password outside your password manager (man-in-the-middle, keylogger, phishing), then you’re still protected. Maybe it’s hubris in my own ability to keep my password manager safe, but I’ve never been worried about storing MFA in my password manager.
2FA is the biggest bane to my productivity in the last 15 years, no part of my work life should require me to pull out my magic distraction device.
Use a password manager that lets you autofill 2fa, like Bitwarden.
That's bad advice
Is it less secure than it could be? Yes.
Is it better than no 2FA? Also yes.
In the end if it doesn’t work for your security model, than more power to you. But if it helps to increase the security of the average Joe, it’s good advice.
Get a hardware 2FA key instead of using your phone for TOTP
I don't like how a lot of things require their own custom app, especially when there's no automatic notification. I need to try and remember what the app is called, open it, navigate through, then approve it
Yubikey
You can use KeePassXC to generate the TOTP codes on your PC. With the browser plugin, you can generate the code and fill the textbox with one click when the password database is unlocked.
Sites that don't use standard TOTP for 2FA are a pain in the ass though.
Good, people are fucking stupid and if it effects others it's often better to choose the security for them!
Yup. I'm actually a bit baffled by how much negativity/misinformation there's around 2FA even in a place like this, which should naturally have a more technically inclined userbase.
Well negativity is there because every app wants it.
I don't care if account x is compronised, as it has absolutly no value
I dislike MFA because it creates a risk of losing access to my account. I can back up my passwords; I can't back up a hardware device.
2fa should be mandatory everywhere
Hard disagree. I do not want to have 2FA for every shittly little thing I do not care about.
Specifically app-based 2FA, ideally Google Authenticator based. There are tons of great authenticator apps available that are all compatible, so it should absolutely be preferred over SMS or email.
No offense to companies but I'm honestly sick of companies forcing 2fa. Every single one seems to have a different shitty way of doing it. Like why on earth do I need two different authenticator apps on my phone (authy&google authenticator)? Some do sms/phone number, but then yell at you and prevent you from doing 2fa if you have a "bad phone number". This happened on discord where I'm locked out of certain servers because I can't do phone verification, and I can't do it because discord doesn't like my phone number. Twitter was the same way for a long while (couldn't do 2fa/phone verification due to them not liking my number).
From the article it sounds like they're doing authenticator app or sms. I'm guessing sms won't work for me, so app it is. I decided to dig to see which authenticator app they use and they list: 1password, authy, lastpass, and microsoft.... no google?
Honestly, even email requirements for accounts is annoying because you know it just ends up spamming you. is the future where we're gonna have to have 30 different authenticator apps on our phone?
Like why on earth do I need two different authenticator apps on my phone (authy&google authenticator)?
you... don't?
Both of these implement exactly the same protocol (TOTP). Used authy for all my ~~Top Of The Pops~~ Time-based one-time password needs exclusively, before moving everything to bitwarden
Unfortunately there are some websites that require Authy (probably because Authy wined and dined some business executive). I absolutely loathe these sites but if it’s a site you’re not willing to live without, you’re stuck with having Authy plus your main 2FA app.
which ones are that? I'd love to check, because afaik, they have a feature that enables push-2fa via authy, but should generally work on other apps as well
Sendgrid's only options for 2FA are Authy (their proprietary token generation, no option for TOTP) or SMS. Tried signing up the other day and was surprised to find no option to use standard TOTP.
https://docs.sendgrid.com/ui/account-and-settings/two-factor-authentication
BTW, any authenticator app works when it tells you to use one. They all use a standard, so it doesn't matter which one you use.
Anyone who claims they're doing OTPs over SMS for "security" ia lying to you. Discord wants your phone number; it has nothing to do with your security
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