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submitted 21 hours ago by JOMusic@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

Article: https://proton.me/blog/deepseek

Calls it "Deepsneak", failing to make it clear that the reason people love Deepseek is that you can download and it run it securely on any of your own private devices or servers - unlike most of the competing SOTA AIs.

I can't speak for Proton, but the last couple weeks are showing some very clear biases coming out.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago

Proton working overtime to discourage me from renewing.

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

I don’t see how what they wrote is controversial, unless you’re a tankie.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah the article is mostly legit points that if your contacting the chatpot in China it is harvesting your data. Just like if you contact open AI or copilot or Claude or Gemini they're all collecting all of your data.

I do find it somewhat strange that they only talk about deep-seek hosting models.

It's absolutely trivial just to download the models run locally yourself and you're not giving any data back to them. I would think that proton would be all over that for a privacy scenario.

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[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

It would be fair if ChatGPT or any american service received the same treatment, but the only article I found from 2023 seems quite neutral :/

https://proton.me/blog/privacy-and-chatgpt

[-] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

We actually it seems quite fair-ish 🤷

AI has the potential to be a truly revolutionary development, one that could drive advancement for centuries. But it must be done correctly. These companies stand to make billions of dollars in revenue, and yet they violated our privacy and are training their tools using our data without our permission. Recent history shows we must act now if we’re to avoid an even worse version of surveillance capitalism.

Also from 2023 : https://proton.me/blog/ai-gdpr

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 10 points 20 hours ago

Anyone promoting LLMs without a big side of skepticism is exposing their bias.

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Glad I steered clear of Proton, change my mind. No wait, don't.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago

How do you know you're running anything securely? How many people have actually audited the code?

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

It's not active running code that can affect a system in any meaningful way. It's a model. It's like a complex series of partitioned data that is loaded and sorted through. Nothing more. It's been open sourced and poured through, and it's just a model.

[-] sem 1 points 14 hours ago

Is the chatbot interface that uses the model open source? If you self-host will it try to send data home?

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