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Is petrol vegan? (feddit.de)
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[-] BedbugCutlefish@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago

Its almost entirely made from plants

And like, even if it was dinosaurs, Dirt is also (partially) made from decayed animals. And, oversimplifying, that dirt becomes plants.

And that's all fine for vegans, because it doesn't involve exploitation of animals. Like, if you needed to raise and kill animals to use their corpses to grow plants, that'd be animal exploitation.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 year ago

Good thing yeast is technically not an animal.

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Fungi is closer related to animals than plants.

[-] Obonga@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

So in your mind that makes fungi capable of feeling just like animals?

[-] ox0r@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago

When I eat magic mushrooms, I feel like fungi are capable of feeling all kinds of weird shit tbh

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[-] akariii 9 points 1 year ago

there's no veganism under capitalism

[-] Obonga@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

"nO eThIcAl cOnSuMpTiOn UnDeR cApItAlIsM"

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[-] timkenhan@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] akariii 6 points 1 year ago

i will. where can i find them?

[-] rog@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago
[-] timkenhan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Also, KFC, apparently...

[-] akariii 2 points 1 year ago

never seen them where i live

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

All water was at some point Dino piss. guess vegans can't drink

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

you are most definitely exploiting animals in the scenario you described. do you think i need to build a water table in order to exploit it for a well?

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Screw it, eating plants is animal abuse. Just photosynthesize

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

i didn't say it's abuse. i said it's exploitation. everyone opposes abuse. exploitation is not inherently abusive.

[-] Obonga@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

You are kidding yourself if you think what we do with animals is anything but abusive.

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[-] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 47 points 1 year ago

Pedantry alert: most oil comes from algae and plankton. By “most”, I’m talking high 90 percent rather than 51 percent.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

But I like saying my car runs on dinosaur squeezins'.

[-] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

This is better than “dinosaur juice”. I’m stealing it.

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

But vegans are against eating canned pre-cooked food as well. Doesn't matter that the "meat" is 1% actual dead animal and 99% cardboard or if the noodles are 99% the stuff that got stuck to the wheat mill during flour production and 1% egg. Those folks will not eat it.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

vegans are against eating canned pre-cooked food as well

i don't think so

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Vegans aren't against precooked, that is the macrobiotic types tjat only eat raw food and use a low speed blender to not add heat and destroy nutrients

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

My phrasing was off. I meant "cans with meat dishes" and my original joke was that those "foods" do not contain meat anyway. No statement, just a joke

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[-] ArdMacha@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Petrol isn't made of dinos it's made of is plankton

[-] Vegoon@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

"bio diesel" contains animal fat, 1 million tons each year in the EU alone.

[-] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago

I think it's algae, not dinosaurs

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Mostly algae, a splash of dinosaurs.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Just a sprinkle of dino

[-] underKap@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.

[-] reev@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm down for fuckcars veganism

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, these days, many people become vegan to combat climate change and are opposed to fossil fuels even before that...

[-] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

definitionally you aren't vegan if environmental impact is your terminal goal. It would be like saying you're Christian for the cathedrals or something.

Veganism is a philosophy and life practice of trying to minimise harm to other earthlings. It can involve environmentalism as an instrumental goal, that is protecting the environment to avoid mass suffering, but a world of perfect environmental preservation where all ants have depression would be unacceptable to a vegan but not to an environmentalist.

Many people with environmental goals adopt a plant based diet and/or lifestyle.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

veganism isn't inherently utilitarian. some vegans would be fine with a world full of depressed ants.

[-] insurgenRat@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

The definition privileges action, which is why vegan philosophy is generally fine with stuff like foxes hunting birds but not humans hunting foxes to save birds.

Taking action to depress ants to save others would go against the ethos as defined:

"Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

[-] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Definitely should forsake technology and get back where we belong. Lions and dolphins have to rough it out, why are we acting like we have the right to just not die of sepsis?

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

A prey animal will try to fight off its predators, is this wrong of the prey animal? Should the prey animal lie down and accept its fate, because it doesn't have the right to not get eaten? Why do you think nature has a "correct" state and that deviating from this is bad?

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

thats when he went too far

[-] underKap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

i aggre with you if you're talkin about mass capitalism version of veganism, but the original activist movement of veganism, which is more direct and utopic, is in fact against vehicles itself, cos the production of everything involved causes harm to animals environment.

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