Beehaw mods had issues moderating a flood of new users and low quality posts from here. As they put it, it was more “we don’t have the tools and staff to handle tons of new people” and less “we don’t like SIJW”.
Good explanation.
If I remember correctly they defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works because they were two huge and largely unmoderated instances but did say that they'd like to refederate if solid moderation was put in place.
The SIJW admin and them had talks and agreed that they'd refederate when Lemmy would have decent moderation tools that allowed for that, which hasn't happened yet.
If what you're saying is accurate, and these huge communities are largely unmoderated, then we have a pretty outstanding community here on Lemmy. Can you imagine the hate, vitriol, and absolute trash that would be visible if Twitter or Reddit were unmoderated? Yes we have some weird opinions and content, but nothing I've seen is overtly dangerous or hateful. Pretty cool, Lemmy. Pretty cool.
A lot of it is self-selecting IMO. We're big enough to have a good sized community, but we aren't so big as to become a big target. That will change as Lemmy gets bigger, but it least for now, it's small enough that the trolls probably don't get enough attention to bother sticking around.
If you want trash, you can find it on Lemmy, just check the list of most defederated instances. You don't see it because... well, they're defederated, which itself is one of the moderation tools available in the Fediverse.
I hope we'll get to a place where they'll refederate with us. They have some really interesting communities. I didn't sign up for an account there because I wasn't willing to write a 7 page essay and take the blood oath to be admitted. I'm exaggerating... a little.
They want to be the "Elks Lodge" of the fediverse and that's totally fine. They were pretty transparent about their reasons for defederating with us and their reasons were understandable.
The Beehaw admins made this choice, and documented their rationale here: https://beehaw.org/post/567170
Just popping up real fast to say, it's a pleasure seeing screenshots of my site while randomly scrolling through my feed. Thanks for using it!
Let beehaw do beehaw things and don't worry too much about it.
You can't say "we" on a fediverse system, because the post is gonna be seen by everyone everywhere. I'm not on sh.itjust.works, I'm viewing your post on kbin, and it's also gonna be seen on all the other lemmy servers that are federated with yours.
They posted this on !main.
That's my point exactly. Their title asks "Does anyone know why we’re defederated from beehaw?" but the majority of people reading this post will be on instances that AREN'T defederated with beehaw. The post needs to say "Does anyone know why sh.itjust.works is defederated from beehaw?"
I mean it doesn't take much critical thinking to realize defederation is per instance, so mayyybbbeee they're talking about the instance they're both part of and posting in.
They posted on the community for discussing the server they're on. There's some onus on you to look at what communities someone is posting to
I posted it in the community for sh.itjust.works
There appears to be some miscommunication between instances in this thread regarding how posts appear from other communities. I think many arguments are stemming from this, so to clear things up:
It is trivial for users on sh.itjust.works to see what is posted where. It is less obvious for kbin.social users to do the same. Personally, I think it's a kbin issue for not surfacing enough post information.
Beehaw defederated everyone lmao
The didn't defederate from instances that require approval to join, e.g. Midwest.social
What is the name of this app?
defed.xyz
Site's dead?
Edit: Here's another site that lists blocks...
A classic case of Lemmy hugged to death
Lemmy hugs are more like gentle caresses
My experience on Beehaw so far is that 80% of them are nice and 20% of them are Portlandia characters.
What about infosec.pub?
I have an alt there, the admin defederated due to the infamous literal shit spammer.
It might be worth informing him that the issue has been solved
Home of the sh.itjust.works instance.
