and people scoffed when i said shit's going to get worse worldwide because of trump..
I'm surprised by the backlash, this is Liberal's only chance. I know it's fun for the armchair political analysts to poke fun at the ones analyzing for money, but we can all see the same writing on the wall. Incumbents are fuckin losing, all around the world, to far-right challengers. The U.S. Democratic tried and utterly failed to change the optics on their party being responsible for corporations using a fucking pandemic as a smokescreen to tighten the clamps of late-stage capitalism with price hikes that will never come down. Liberal still has to find a way to sell change from the status quo if they want to stay in power, so they're taking a gamble. Maybe the issue really was that Biden dropped out too late, or maybe Americans really are dumber than Canadians. Either way, it was take this gamble of have a guaranteed loss. It'll be interesting to see who takes Trudeau's place, and whether they can sell themselves as enough of a difference in the ~8 months they'll have.
what labor? trudeau is the head of the liberal party
that's my bad, it's early and I got my centrist L parties mixed up.
To my knowledge there have been people here on Lemmy stating that it would be best if he stepped down. Oh gentle Canadian neighbors:
Whaaat is happening up there, my dudes?
Shits kinda on fire and it's probably like 50% the USs fault.
But we kind of tend to start getting pissy with our pms after about 10 years,
Trudeau is poison to the Liberal brand. In Canada we don't vote parties in, we vote parties (and leaders) out. Trudeau has been PM for just over 9 years, the 7th longest serving PM.
What will happen is we'll vote the Cons in, they'll make hilariously huge mistakes like they always do, get 1-2 terms, then get voted out in favour of another Liberal government. If you go back throughout our history we have almost exactly 2-1 Lib - Con governments by time in office.
Poilievre is an anti-abortion career politician who is going to try to ape what Trump did, only every time he speaks he loses votes. He has a whiny voice and is widely referred to as 'Milhouse' because, well, he looks like Milhouse. He's not a strong-man and his public speaking is embarrassing. He'll brown nose Trump as much as he can and absolutely eat it when Trumps policies fuck our economy.
Nothing. This is the SAME SHIT THAT HAPPENED IN 1993, except it was a conservative PM then (Mulroney). The last generation of them that cared to be a leader for all sides. Harper was outright an enemy to decency.
Nowadays, the notion of self-sacrifice for utilitarian ethics is a rarified trait; and utterly non-existent on the right of the aisle. Run the thought experiment for yourself and simulate a republican or a conservative candidate doing the right thing. It's good for a laugh.
Mulroney was simply unpopular, especially about the GST. People fucking HATE Trudeau, a deep visceral feeling he's engendered across the country, and it's not recent. (It's hard to take anyone seriously that calls Harper a threat to decency)
Oh I hated Mulroney too... Conservatives have been slimy and repellent to my sensibilities since about grade 4.
Your lack of ability to take me seriously is, frankly, your own flaw to come to grips with. It doesn't change my ability to vote or who I will vote for, and mine counts the same as yours, Peaches.
Politically speaking, hes doing the right thing. The mandate of the people kind of requires it. Its not good for anything other than the expectations of democracy and the system set up for him and canadian citizens.l as a whole. Like, long term world implications im not thrilled, but the writing is on the walls. Its a "you want to make this bed, fine, sleep in it" sort of situation. He has no mandate now.
I know that i will hate what comes next, and i know it feels like he and his party is rolling over, and i know canadians, much like usa citizens with trump, are playing with a stacked deck. But personally, ill stand here with the odds stacked against. Having faith in the systems we have set up, that we will survive this too.
I believe in a fucking system. Thats why i was not protesting today when trump got certified. Trudeau stepping down is correct. And ill die on the hill that i will help maintain that system. When someone breaks that system however, unlike our brothers to the north, ive got loads of guns and a very ignorant population to convince. But I will abide by our democratic institutions and hold faith in them as far as i can.
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Inflation(read: gouging) is a massive problem which isn't being tackled, housing is unaffordable, and the medical systems are underfunded (due in part to the exploitative US system). There's also some conflict in our relations with Mexico which I'm personally pissed about but I don't think most are concerned with.
The opposition party is headed by a far right "populist" who claims the current status quo is "authoritarian socialism" and is supported by Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk.
Liberals are upset with Trudeau for failing to fix the issues listed above and offering no counter to some of the legitimate populist policies Pierre champions.
This is not an issue isolated to Canada, this same story - give or take a few details - is playing out all over the Western world. The liberals are being exposed as lame ducks and losing the support of the people, leaving the faux-populist far right to take their place, in the conspicuous absence - or rather, enforced impotence - of left-populists. The status quo is falling apart and fascism is returning in force, largely unopposed.
So who is Musk going to replace him with?
By the sound of it, his own party gets to pick a new leader to carry out his term. So we may have to wait for their next election before Elon gets can to buy Canada.
I could be completely wrong though I dont know anything about Canadian political systems.
The current government is a minority government, so the opposition parties can force an election whenever. By law, the next election has to occur by October 5th, but the opposition will likely trigger an election at the earliest opportunity. This is why Trudeau also delayed the next next sitting of parliament until March, to allow the party to elect a new leader before the inevitable election.
Long story short, the Conservatives will likely be in power by summer.
The NDP isn't dumb enough to support a no confidence vote. They threatened to do so to get Trudeau out but there's no way they'd go through with it. The projected conservative majority would kill the influence they currently have.
They don't really have anything to gain by delaying until October, and they lose any power/credibility they have anyway if they make this an empty threat.
They get to maintain their influence (however small) over the government for another 9 months. Trudeau stepping down is an easy out for the NDP to claim they got what they wanted.
They don’t really have anything to gain by delaying until October
They gain more money, because they are the only major political party that has virtually zero dollars in donations from companies. The NDP absolutely struggle when there are frequent elections, because they're funded almost entirely by the (barely remaining) middle class, and the poor. After Harper removed the cap/guaranteed money for each party to have per election, the NDP have been so far behind the funding of the other parties it's very sad.
Is Musk legally eligible to be the PM?
Goodbye and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ shit, Trudeau
Whoa, what news have I been missing out of Canada?
Inflation is high, quality of life is slipping, etc. Everyone thinks he should be doing more and the Liberals don't like his odds if an election is called.
Been a long time coming. Trudeau can’t take a dump without running it by his corporate overlords first. And he flooded the country with more immigration than the infrastructure can handle, simply because his handlers demanded he provide them with cheap & exploitable labor.
But his party is completely corporate captured, and I don’t see them being able to produce anyone better. What’s extremely concerning is some people are floating Freeland as a replacement, who has repeatedly exposed herself as a Nazi sympathizer if not one herself, so there is some level of support in the party for embracing the race towards fascism to appease the corporate class and oppose the growing discontent of the working class.
Too bad NDP is too corrupt and incompetent to provide a better option.
Just popped in to say: if you're a Nazi sympathizer, you're a Nazi.
Nazis don't leave a lot of room for nuance.
Proroguing Parliament for 2½ months to pick a new leader isn't a good look for the Liberals on this one, but I can see why they went for it. That's a lot of news cycles for things to cool off before a likely election.
I doubt it will be enough to keep the anti-trans bigot party from winning a majority government, sadly.
Are you Canadian?
Longest I've been out of Canada is a week.
I wonder who gets to play the role of Kim Campbell this time?
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Oh snap ~elections?~
Good
found another dufus. the only people cheering are the "fuck Trudeau" camp who are too daft to realize that we'll get much worse instead or who know this and want it.
the world slides further away from progress.
I'm not Canadian but fuck Trudeau and the liberal party for campaigning on replacing First-past-the-post voting and then shrugging his shoulders and doing jack shit when the election was over.
We really are more alike then we like to admit. Just the same humans in a different location.
Here is a video on the history of council housing in the UK. Seems like yall need to share it with each other up north der (us too, thanks).
Peace.
Here we go again with the "laZe-eR EvE'UhL" and "trollolol problem" but Canada-style.
Shouldn't this make you and others demand reform from Liberal Party? Or support New Democratic Party which is far more progressive? And before you mention about the two party system, it's quite weak in Canada compared to the American system. After all, the Canadian Tories went extinct despite having been a force to reckon with.
The reason the world is regressing is because of champagne socialists and limousine liberals forcing salt of the earth people to choose for the "lazer eve'uhl" who will do nothing substantial but for their corporate overlords.
I do support the NDP. but let's not pretend that this development or the "fuck Trudeau"ers are going to do anything but benefit the conservatives.
So the guy who wears blackface and encourages the poor to kill themselves was a good leader for Canada?
Wasn't the blackface thing decades ago?
Still problematic sure but extremely disingenuous to present it in the present tense as if it's happening right now (unless there's something I don't know).
True, the whole "Kill the poor and pretend its medicine." thing though... that's much worse.
No really they made a whole commercial trying to glamorize it and everything.
Well it's mostly that at least a certain group with disabilities has access to a way out when life is too harsh. It is to limit unneeded suffering. A respectful way to end one's life should be available to everyone, but that is a hard pill to swallow for many neurotypical / religious people. So it gets limited to a certain group, and then they use that compromise as an argument..
You don't decide whether you are born, at least let us have more control over our own death. In a progression of our human civilization, this should count for everyone.
Framing this in a bad way is exactly what some conservative politicians and media want.
You really need to look into how MAID is being used and who it's being pushed on. To call it a "Assisted Dying" program is blatantly ignoring the harsh ways Canada abuses it and pushes it onto the poor especially.
Edit: Even the group that called for MAID to begin with thinks it's being abused - https://www.yahoo.com/news/assisted-dying-abused-canada-admits-222218423.html
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