OpenAI announces plan to transform into a for-profit company : technology

[-] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 188 points 2 weeks ago

Oh boy, how surprising.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

I'm clutching my pearls as I type this.

[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 160 points 2 weeks ago

So the development of inorganic intelligence, considered by many as an inflection point in human civilisation is to be handed to business graduates who are historically proven to be capable of any level of atrocity in the name of corporate greed. America, fuck yeah.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 74 points 2 weeks ago

~~America~~ Greed, fuck yeah.

Don't fool yourself. The USA lost the exclusivity deal on unchecked corpo greed a long time ago. This is a global issue now.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

Always has been.

[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, the American tag was just a throwaway line, greed unchecked, insane and self-harming has always been with us. We let it sit with us around our camp fires like wolves but unlike wolves we never tamed it.

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[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Actually corporations themselves are 99% of what people fear about AGI already in their inhuman decisionmaking to the detriment of humanity.

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[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 2 weeks ago

"ClosedAI" rebrand when?

🤣

[-] kubica@fedia.io 36 points 2 weeks ago

NopeAI

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[-] BB84@mander.xyz 65 points 1 week ago

Stop depending on these proprietary LLMs. Go to !localllama@sh.itjust.works.

There are open-source LLMs you can run on your own computer if you have a powerful GPU. Models like OLMo and Falcon are made by true non-profits and universities, and they reach GPT-3.5 level of capability.

There are also open-weight models that you can run locally and fine-tune to your liking (although these don’t have open-source training data or code). The best of these (Alibaba’s Qwen, Meta’s llama, Mistral, Deepseek, etc.) match and sometimes exceed GPT 4o capabilities.

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

And there are also free, online hosted instances of those same LLMs in a (relatively speaking) privacy-protecting format from DuckDuckGo, for anyone who doesn't have a powerful GPU :)

[-] BB84@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Interesting. So they mix the requests between all DDG users before sending them to “underlying model providers”. The providers like OAI and Anthropic will likely log the requests, but mixing is still a big step forward. My question is what do they do with the open-weight models? Do they also use some external inference provider that may log the requests? Or does DDG control the inference process?

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

All requests are proxied through DuckDuckGo, and all personalized user metadata is removed. (e.g. IPs, any sort of user/session ID, etc)

They have direct agreements to not train on or store user data, (the training part is specifically relevant to OpenAI & Anthropic) with a requirement they delete all information once no longer necessary (specifically for providing responses) within 30 days.

For the Llama & Mixtral models, they host them on together.ai (an LLM-focused cloud platform) but that has the same data privacy requirements as OpenAI and Anthropic.

Recent chats that are saved for later are stored locally (instead of on their servers) and after 30 conversations, the last chat before that is automatically purged from your device.

Obviously there's less technical privacy guarantees than a local model, but for when it's not practical or possible, I've found it's a good option.

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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 61 points 2 weeks ago

I thought they were a for-profit company all this time.

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 32 points 1 week ago

Pretty much non-profit in name only. Some shady hybrid model.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 12 points 1 week ago

OpenAI sure seems like a case study in how to grift everyone by masquerading as a non profit whilst actually enriching yourself and your shareholders, causing a whole new class of societal problems in the process.

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[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago

That's very open of them

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

Open to All Income.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 week ago

[-] arararagi@ani.social 43 points 1 week ago

Shocking nobody

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

Well, apart from the people like me who thought they had always been one because they acted exactly like one.

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[+] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

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[-] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

Weird, I said this shit for years, and I was upvoted into the heavens, agreed with, called a hero, and acknowledged as a result.

Maybe is not what was being said?

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Heh, I warn about Mozilla/Firefox all the time and get the same. I hope I'm wrong though :(

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

I only see negative posts about openai, I kinda find this unbelievable, do you have any examples?

[-] expr@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago

I don't think you've paid enough attention. Back when ChatGPT first launched, they were treated as saints.

The negative opinions have corresponded with public sentiment souring towards them in general (this did happen quite quickly, however).

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can you provide even one example? AI is my autistic obsession, and I never saw anything like that on lemmy even once.

I was even regularly searching for "AI" using the search feature daily.

I have never once seen this, and I don't find it believable at all, honestly.

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[-] Shape4985@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

Booooooooooo!

Anyway: ill just keep using alpaca to run llms locally

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[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

So, ads in chat now?

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

'subtle' product recommendations

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

I'm Open AI and this is my favorite shop in the Citadel.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, conversational product plugs

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 week ago

There was never another outcome.

Capitalism breeds one thing, and it certainly isn't innovation, and it most definitely isnt not-for-profit innovation.

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[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 19 points 2 weeks ago

Hahaha. April 1st is early this year.
They are never going to make enough money by selling licenses and subscriptions for the cost of their current models (smarter people than me have made good estimates), let alone the future ones. Those future models are at a much worse performance-cost ratio. Ads will at best bring in about 1 usd per user per month (estimated by Facebook revenue and number of users) - double or triple it just for lolz, and they would still be losing money.
So… how will this be pulled off? Only wrong answers!

[-] Nikelui@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Have a partnership with Microsoft and ship Windows 12 as the new "AI only" OS. Every command must go through ChatGPT to work. Then push updates to older Win11 OS to make them unusable.

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[-] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

How fast are they burning money right now?

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago

Based on their funding rounds, $10 billion lasts about 18 months.

So about $555 million per month.

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[-] sleen@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They should also change their name to ClosedAI while they're at it.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

No kidding. 🙀

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Didnt they do this like a year ago

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Yes, but I don't think they made a profit so giving it another go

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Lol like it wasn't always.

[-] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This is going to sound weird but so is the internet their icon suggests a chain of bodies eating out the ass of the one in front of them which to me seems apt for the product

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

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