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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

The obsession with cast iron like it is some kind of magic ritual is honestly really weird. After you cook with it, wash it with water and dry it with some paper towels, that's it, no need to make it more complicated than it really is.

If things are sticking to your pan, use more oil in your pan; with enough oil, you can cook on a rock and make it nonstick.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 55 points 3 days ago

The reverence and fear of cast iron cooking pots and pans is stupid on both sides. People have been using cast iron under every condition from the big fire place in a castle's kitchen to a fire pit in a peasant's hovel to open fires outdoors to Michelin Star restaurants in Paris and London. And they cooked EVERYTHING in it because it's what they had and all they had. There is no mystery to seasoning and care of cast iron. Just like there is little to fear from cooking with it.

Those that do worship in the church of cast iron-- just cook in it. There is nothing sacrosanct about it. If your Great Grandmother didn't worry about it, why should you? Any damage you can do it can be repaired quickly and easily. So get over yourselves.

And those that fear cast iron cookery, get over it.......They are often the same ones that are fearful of micro plastics getting ingested and yet have no care or concern while cooking with plastic cutting boards and utensils in plastic coated cookware.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 19 points 3 days ago

The mystery is that iron will rust if wet. The care instructions are "don't leave it wet for a long time".

[-] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Even if it does rust accidentally, can't you just scrape or buff out the rust and then reseal/reseason it again and it's fine?

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Unless there is a literal hole rusted through it, grab some sand paper and sand the rust off of it. It's just iron. I've done it many times to rescue an old skillet or Dutch Oven.

Short of taking a sledgehammer to it, it's nigh on impossible to destroy cast iron cooking pans.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

So much gatekeeping in anything creative. Music, cooking, art…. If you change one little thing it’s no longer the Thing, it’s something else, and it’s not what chef/band/artist/or grandma made, even though it’s a popular variant of the same Thing called the same thing somewhere else. Cast iron falls into the same trap. Such harsh judgement on use and care. It’s a f’n pan, not the last remaining example of a vintage Ferrari. Get over it.

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I have no fear of cooking with it, I just want my cookware to be minimally fussy and not require special treatment. If the $10 Walmart skillet can be thrown in the dishwasher and the $100 cast iron one requires me to baby it or it'll rust, I'll go with the cheap skillet every day.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Teflon also should not go in the dishwasher. Anything with exposed aluminum should not go in the dishwasher. Even stainless steel cookware recommends against dishwasher

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Only because some Stainless cookware uses Aluminium rivets for attaching the handle.

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I put pretty much all of my stainless steel stuff in the dishwasher and it's fine

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Look at Ol' Diamond Jim over there with his $100 skillets!

I got 2 cast iron frying pans, a 6qt dutch oven, a 2 burner flat iron, and one cast iron 2qt kettle. I ain't got $50 into the whole lot of them. Vintage cast iron is cheap because it will last for multiple generations and there is lots of it floating around to be had on the cheap.

And if you ain't got 5 minutes to clean a cast iron frying pan, then no $10 nuclear glow int the dark Walmart special is going to do any better in your care. I highly recommend you find someone to cook for you. Before you give yourself food poisoning.

[-] FuzzyDog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

God I wish, food prep is one of my least favorite things to do lol.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

You have those prices reversed though. My cast iron collection, as noted further down, cost less in total than my one really good stainless steel pan, and guess where some of that cast iron was purchased? For $10 at Walmart, LOL. And at thrift stores and Target.

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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 89 points 4 days ago
[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 41 points 4 days ago

Nazgûl screeches intensify

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

That just gets me excited to start a fresh new seasoning. Starting from bare metal is a good feeling

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 93 points 4 days ago

It’s insane to me that people don’t wash them and call it seasoning.

It’s apparently a different story when someone seasons their underwear.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 39 points 4 days ago

Just FYI, you do wash cast iron, you just don't use detergents on it. One common method is to dump a handful of salt and a tiny splash of water into the pan and start scrubbing. You can use a gentle dish soap, but I'd avoid using the dishwasher, because those detergents will be a lot stronger and will actually ruin the seasoning (as well as linger on the surface and end up in your food, which is also bad).

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Modern soaps/detergents don’t contain lye, which is what ruins the seasoning. It’s the humid drying of a dishwasher that causes it to rust. Nothing to with the detergent.

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[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

We do wash them, I clean mine by boiling water in them, scraping any stubborn bits with a wooden spatula, rinsing it out under running water and wiping them down with a clean towel and heating the pan again to evaporate any remaining water. No microbials will survive being boiled and then heated again, anything stuck to the pan dissolves away in boiling water and a clean towel will wipe away anything else. After that I add a few drops of oil and wipe down the still hot surface with the thinnest possible coating of oil.

Seasoning for cast iron doesn't mean holding onto previous flavors. It definitely shouldn't taste like last night's dinner. Seasoning in the context of cast iron is the build up of thin layers of polymerized oils from heating them up in a clean pan that forms a durable protective finish that is incredibly non-stick.

So more accurately parallel your underwear example how cast iron is cleaned, if you took your underwear, boiled the hell out of them, used something to give them a scrub, rinsed them out well and then heat dried them.

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[-] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 52 points 4 days ago

¯\(ツ)/¯ wouldn't kill it. Just scrub any flakes off and re-season. The abuse they can take is almost unreasonable.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 34 points 4 days ago

You could leave it outside in the dirt for 5 years and still just give it a lye bath then reseason it to work like new

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

You... hate cast iron? Of all things people could hate, cast iron is the choice here. Mmaight.

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I wash my cast iron with normal dish soap and steel wool, and if I'm too lazy, I put it in the dishwasher. I've been doing this for 20 years. I don't "season" it. It's a pan, no more, no less. The main advantage is that you don't need to worry about scratching the shit out of it.

Needs a tiny little bit more fat than a non-stick if you want to make an omelette.

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[-] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

As long as you don't leave it sitting in water you'll be fine.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I wash with soap and add a little oil every cook. Works great.

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[-] Atlas_@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago
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[-] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Everyone acts like enameled cast iron doesn't exist...

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago

You baby your cookware and debate the differences of each type.

I don't even know what type of cookware I have.

We are not the same.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 14 hours ago

If you don't care why post on a thread to tell people how little you care?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Clearly making a fun joke about my cookware ineptitude. Also I didn't say I didn't care, I said I didn't know.

[-] Juice260@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I bet I’d get this joke if I had ever used a dishwasher in my life

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

You're not special for washing dishes in a less efficient way that's worse for the environment. If you've just never had access to one, ignore me, but Ive definitely known a surprising number of people who have dishwashers in their apartments but refuse to use them. If that's you, you're probably doing life wrong.

Anyway there's nothing that unique about the dishwasher itself, washing cast iron in hot soap and water and then leaving it to air dry will strip the protection of the polymerized oil and then trigger the pan to rust. Nothing to do with dishwashers as a technology except if you wash a pan by hand you're likely scrubbing it less effectively and not willing to spend 1-2 hours spraying it with hot water. If you stick the pan into the washer for 15 mins, immediately rinse, dry, and re season, it's not particularly different from washing by hand.

[-] Juice260@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Ewe 😆 Cute grand stand but I grew up living in spare bedrooms and in a homeless shelter for a bit. Not pretending to be special because we couldn’t afford luxuries like that. Keep soapboxing in meme posts though, makes you seem important.

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago

As I said if this wasn't a choice you should ignore me.

[-] 667@lemmy.radio 28 points 4 days ago

I use the washer and then let it sit wet over night to bring out its natural paprika seasoning.

[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 4 days ago

even putting it on the top rack, instead of the bottom where the pots go. Masterfull attention to detail in trolling.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In this thread are people trying to use one tool for everything.

You don't use a screwdriver for everything.

Likewise, in the kitchen, you don't use the same utensil for everything.

And I'm sorry, for the people that have one fork, one knife one knife, one pan. No. Unless you live on shit food, you can't cook with just that.

If you actually want tasty food, you'll need some hardware. There's just no way around it.

Disclaimer, I'm French, and an actual cook (non practising).

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[-] Canopyflyer@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Cooking has been a hobby of mine for decades now. I have gone through a lot of phases in cooking, especially early on.

I have used cast iron, carbon steel, stainless steel, and a dubious flirtation with all aluminum.

16 years on now and this is what I reach for 100% of the time:

Skillet/sautee: cladded stainless. Both standard side and high sided.

Dutch Oven: Enameled cast iron.

Pots Pans: Cladded stainless steel. For smaller 1qt to 2qt I like All Clads D5 for its heat retention. Larger than that I like the D3 for its lighter weight

Grill Pan: cast iron. Hate the excessive weight though

Non-stick: Ceramic coated aluminum. What ever Americas Test Kitchen recommends that year. I consider these disposable items. I stopped using TEFLON a long time ago.

I used cast iron skillets for several years. I found them to be finicky. Heat retention was stupidly high and that's not always a good thing. Excessively heavy and god forbid you attempt any sort of tomato based sauce or anything acidic for that matter. Circumstances forced me to use stainless steel and I just found it matches my needs in a kitchen much better than cast iron. It gets used, it gets cleaned and I put it away. No having to have the vaginal juices of a thousand virgins on hand to make sure it doesn't destroy the next egg I try to cook.

I consider cast iron skillets like safety razors. They had their day, but continue on because of a dedicated set of die hard users. Nothing wrong with that, just not my thing.

The above goes for carbon steel as well, although it usually isn't nearly as heavy.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago

Ugh. You wanna know the secret to cooking on cast iron/carbon steel? Just cook with it. Put fat in, get it hot, put your food in. It's really that easy. Wipe it out when you're done, rub some oil on it. That's it. You can even cook tomato sauce in it, it'll be ok. People have been using cast iron to cook all kinds of things, acidic and not, for literal centuries. This myth that cast iron/carbon steel pans are these delicate special snowflakes that need constant attention and maintenance needs to die.

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[-] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

Gets angry over the fact that you have a dishwasher

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[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seasoning is a polymer, which is known for its strong resistance. It is unlikely to breakdown just with one dishwasher wash.

The seasoned surface is hydrophobic and highly attractive to oils and fats used for cooking (oleophilic).

The protective layer itself is not very susceptible to soaps, and many users do briefly use detergents and soaps.[28]

Unless you are dish washing it everyday and refuse to dry/reseason it, you will be fine.

However, cast iron is very prone to rust, and the protective layer may have pinholes, so soaking for long periods is contraindicated as the layer may start to flake off.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasoning_(cookware)

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

You son of a-

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

Carbon steel > cast iron. Lighter, basically the same heat properties, and you don't get peer pressured into unnecessarily babying a lump of solid metal.

Seriously no reason to dote on either of them so much. Only real care you need to take is that they can rust, so don't leave them wet. And don't needlessly scrub them with chain mail or angle grinders, or you might need to take a few minutes fixing them with cooking oil and the oven.

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