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submitted 6 months ago by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196

oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 6 points 6 months ago

Why do you think you're better than us?

[-] zea_64 6 points 6 months ago

Equally common, unfortunately, is people who don't state their point, they just lay out the pieces and expect you to put it together, but then if you say something bad about it suddenly that's "not what I said". Schrodinger's point.

I've developed a response to comments that do this saying-it-but-not-saying-it thing, and while I try to judge sincerity, there are false positives. An okay approach I've found is just to ask people to clarify: if they say something reasonable they're genuine, and if they dodge the question they're a troll or someone who doesn't want to admit they believe something bad.

[-] Bender_on_Fire@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

While I don't want to deny that people try to put words into others mouths, I think context is still important. It is possible and even quite typical to send messages beyond the meaning of the actual words used in a statement and simply playing dumb when someone calls you out for doing that is also not a great look.

Think of going to a waffles-convention and just walking around claiming that you, in fact, like pancakes. Of course people are going to assume you're a troll.

It's important to think of different perspectives and at least consider if something you meant in a very innocent way might still not sit right with someone else. Certainly not easy to do, mistakes will always happen, but honestly trying makes a huge difference imo.

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Tell me you're not married without saying you're not married

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 months ago

So you're saying everyone should marry???

/s

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[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

So you're saying Twitter is better?

/jk

Sure, it happens here, but I feel the toxicity on Lemmy is far less then on Reddit or other platforms, and with toxicity I mean including people assuming you're saying something else because they are triggered somehow. But it's very hard not to stumble upon people like that. Trolls rule the universe, they are everywhere.

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It may be less toxic, but that's only if you share the sentiments many lemmy users share. The echo chamber is louder here

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[-] oshu@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I just ignore and block if it continues. I got no time for people who are responding to the voices in their head instead of what I'm actually writing.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Me when I talk to my wife...

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago
[-] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It's okay 😁 we're both very open about, and aware of, this issue. So I just let her know it's happening and we giggle about it (sometimes). 😄

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[-] LifeLemons@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I like cameras to capture picture

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago

So you don't like artists?

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[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Wow, so you hate screenshots??!

[-] LifeLemons@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Oh so you love screenshots very much?

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

On the other hand, a failure to make assumptions about what someone is saying leads to people being able either to willfully misrepresent their positions ("Oh, I don't hate waffles, I just bring up how the world would be better without waffles in every conversation, no matter how tangential!") or unintentionally fail to see the necessary implications of their statements ("I'm not saying waffles are better, I'm just saying pancakes are worse!")

All language has some ambiguity, which necessitates assumption in communication.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

So you admit that you're checking me out? And you wanna mate?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Oh sorry I was making a reference to Xavier: Renegade Angel, where Xavier somehow misinterprets the phrase "Checkmate" to be a proposition for sex, from a clone of himself. (One of those.. "Did I watch this at 3am one night or was that a fever dream?" shows)

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 3 points 6 months ago

bwahahaha good to clarify i would never have guessed that

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.

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[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh so you hate minorities too?

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