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This isn't exactly where this belongs so feel free to delete this. I'm mildly infuriated there is no usable alternative to Amazon.com. I'm more than willing to buy products elsewhere, but it's so easy to default to Amazon. Please help.

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[-] Ydna@lemmy.world 3 points 54 minutes ago

Amazon is one issue, but I think the larger enshittification is the proliferation of "marketplace" websites that allow any random imported junk to appeat right alongside quality products with actual manufacturer support.

[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It isn’t really a good alternative, but Walmart.com has nearly as wide of a selection and the same delivery times.

Not that Walmart is a better company.

[-] tamal3@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

Find what you want on Amazon, look at reviews, and then go to the actual website of the producer and buy it directly from them. It's not hard, it just takes an extra step.

You'll probably buy less junk, too.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 9 points 6 hours ago

Yeah but sometimes the only producers are QAMEQHEJAK and you can't even find what real brand sells your thing. Or sometimes they don't do direct sales.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

That means you're buying mass produced shit from China, the brand means nothing, and you'll have better luck on aliexpress.

[-] adhocfungus@midwest.social 5 points 5 hours ago

I do this, but be warned some companies use Amazon for fulfillment. I have ordered directly from manufacturer websites and still ended up with an Amazon package at my door. I just make a note to find a different brand if I ever need that thing again.

[-] this@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

If you don't mind waiting a while for whatever it is you're buying, ali-express isn't too bad. If you're near a city and it's not too specialized of a thing you need you can probably find it at a a brick and mortar store.

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Seconded that. Aliexpress is Amazon with longer shipping and worse return policy. They also have better reviews since they're not mostly AI garbage.

[-] PromptX@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago

I don't live in the US but here Amazon is like a last resort if we can't find what we're looking for.

[-] Presi300@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Idk, Amazon doesn't even exist in my country

[-] Breve@pawb.social 20 points 23 hours ago

This is always the problem: Monopolies are popular with consumers because their centralization makes everything easy. The trappings of convenience.

Buy stuff directly from stores. Every time I've looked, the price elsewhere often exactly matches what Amazon charges because their pricing algorithms are constantly price matching anyhow.

[-] myliltoehurts@lemm.ee 6 points 17 hours ago

I'd honestly pay a bit more to buy from better vendors. Price, options, shipping aren't the things why I end up using Amazon mostly (despite not liking it).

It's the fact that if I need to return something I just click 2 buttons and no questions asked a guy shows up at my door tomorrow to pick it up and my refund is back in my account by the evening.

If other vendors started doing that without all the caveats and conditions and such, I'd never look back.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago

But not shipping. And sometimes, that's the difference.

[-] booly@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago

I'm more than willing to buy products elsewhere, but it's so easy to default to Amazon.

One of the practices that the FTC sued Amazon over was their requirement that sellers list their lowest prices on Amazon and outsource fulfillment (and give up a huge cut) to Amazon in order to qualify for Prime and good search results.

The result is that even though most sellers can afford to sell on their own store and keep a larger percentage of the sales revenue, they're not allowed to actually undercut Amazon's prices. And so Amazon has shielded itself from price competition, despite engaging in pretty expensive practices (free 2 day shipping for most items and places, free 1-day or even same day shipping for some items in some places). And they did it with contracts instead of actually competing.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 23 hours ago

I tend to buy straight from vendors. like I ordered some underwear straight from Hanes the other day.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 1 points 19 hours ago

See here I was thinking that's be crazy but I'd rather do that

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago

When I want a cheap plastic thingy, or cheap hardware and electronics to play around with, I get it off aliexpress. It's virtually the same stuff as amazon just for the patient. Most of that stuff is made in China already even if I get it from an online or local brick and mortar retailer, so it seems more direct to me, avoiding needless retransportation, warehousing and waste.

When I want a quality thing I buy it from a local shop, especially when I need to see it or compare before buying. I can often find a Canadian online retailer too with just a bit of sleuthing.

[-] Breve@pawb.social 2 points 22 hours ago

For cheap plastic "thingies" if you know a friend with a 3D printer they can be of massive help. Even if you don't have such a friend, there are domestic businesses that will print and ship things for you. Granted they aren't always as cheap, but easily better for the environment due to being more local.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Also, check your local library for "creator" services. Our local libraries have 3d printers you can either use, or have them print stuff for you for dirt cheap. Really, really cool service.

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[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago

No.

Amazon is what it is because it creates an easier path for America to buy cheap, as Walmart and McDonald's has done before to great microscopic economic success, due to the failures of our economic paradigm that shrinks wages and pushes manufacturing offshore for corporate profit.

We need higher wages, which create higher prices, which corrects for the misdeeds of our economic exploitation of foreign economies.

We have offloaded our economic burden onto other poorer nations, and that needs to stop. Pay a living wage and accept the higher cost at lower profits. Doing otherwise is an economic ouroboros that only swallows the easy part at the sake of the whole in the name of kicking an inflationary can down the road so that yachts can grow larger as the foundation of this country in undermined for icarian profits.

Fuck your CEO, pay us so they can pay us something and they can have less than everything, so they can keep from having nothing less than more than we can achieve through reluctant violence.

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[-] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Not sure what you are looking for but I can easily buy the same stuff on eBay or Walmart or directly from the retailer. I do a search of Amazon and then google the same product to look at different website options.

[-] Kaiyoto@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

One problem I've been having with ebay lately is that I've ordered items and they're coming drop shipped from Amazon or Walmart.

They're always sellers with ratings in the upper 90s and with like 1000ish or less reviews. A lot of times they list is as only having 1 or 2 left in stock. I've been having some luck going into the reviews and seeing people say "came in an Amazon box" to avoid them.

It's one thing to wholesale stuff and resell it, it's another to just drop ship it from Amazon and Walmart. Been ordering on ebay for many years and I've never seen this before.

[-] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

That happened to me a few times before. I got the shipment in 2 days through Amazon even though I ordered through eBay.

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly after moving into our current home, we were able to avoid Amazon almost completely. We don't buy cookware, as carbon steel, cast iron, and stainless steel cookware lasts at least decades if not forever; we have way too many mugs from market and thrift store; and all of our clothes are thrifted with some from Costco.

we get groceries from farmers market, local ethnic stores, or super market. We get shelf stable products like toilet paper or drinks from Costco in bulk. We barely replace our electronic, because I would fix them with spare parts from ifixit and eBay; when it do need to get replaced, I get them from bestbuy or manufacture. We get most of the cleaning products from refil store or supermarket; we would buy soap from farmers market or local supplier.

We would only buy very obscure product from Amazon, like replacement knob for pot lid etc, but they are very very rare. One particular product we unfortunately relied on Amazon is the bamboo electric toothbrush brush head, we are trying to find some local salers that carry that, but cannot find any.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

its the obscure parts and items that get me going back to Amazon...

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[-] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago

But there is... Walmart.com in the US offers basically the same and often with 2 day shipping and in most cases same easy return.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

I think he was hoping for something better than Amazon, as opposed to worse.

[-] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Every big name store has something similar the issue is that its worse or the same as Amazon, never better.

Probably not aligned with the OP but id like a place that aggregates quality things from all over no cheap sketchy plastic things but also not just common big items that are already in every big box store.

[-] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

One thing I’ve realized about Amazon, at least lately, is that they don’t always have the lowest prices. For many items, I can go directly to the manufacturer’s site and get the same product for a lower or equal price with free shipping. If I have to wait a couple extra days, so be it. At least I’m not lining Bezos’ pockets.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago

There are people who sell products who are not affiliated with Amazon

Shocking I know

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