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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pretty crazy that spiked drugs are still "overdoses" when it's clearly poisoning by whoever mixed them. It's attempted murder, not that prosecution would lead anywhere. It's demonizing the user instead of the supplier.

E: I guess manslaughter if the cook didn't know what they were doing, but didn't deliberately mix something in. In the case of fentanyl, it's very deliberate, though.

[-] odium@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago

Problem #746 that would be fixed by legalizing

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

I don't think legalizing these drugs is a good idea, but decriminalizing is.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Please read up on how Portugal solved their drug problem.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, they decriminalized it

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

They went further than that. They legalized it so that doctors can prescribe it. If you were a heroin addict, the doctor can prescribe you heroin. You’d get clean pure heroin, not shit cut with fentanyl, and you’d get help with getting clean.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

That's not legalization that's medicine being prescribed by a doctor. Any doctor in the USA can also prescribe diamorphine as well.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Except they don’t do that in America

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

You're missing the point. What you described is not legalization

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

yes, they decriminalized it. I knew this years ago.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

They didn’t just decriminalize it, they legalized it so doctors could prescribe drugs. If you’re a heroin addict in Portugal, you can get pure clean heroin prescribed to you by a doctor and be put on a plan for treatment.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

safe supply requires legalization and regulation

[-] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

well, i wasn't talking about safe supply, i was talking about removing the component of making it illegal. I don't think it's right that people consume heroin and crack and meth and basically drugs like that except cannabis. I have been around drug users and i while people go "buy silocybin is so life changing!" I have seen VERY negative results from these drugs, and it doesn't help that the CIA started putting drugs out on the street with their experiment with LSD, MKULTRA, counter-culture, and charles manson.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

many things freely and legally available are harmful, I'd rather we all make our own choices and offer rehab and other aid for people that need it or want it.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

This is fucking sad. Fuck the war on drugs

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Maybe. But this may have nothing to do with that. I used to work at a shady hotel. We had 3 people die in the span of 6 hours, completely unrelated to each other. All because they bought the same batch of heroin. I'm not an expert in how heroin is made, but the way it was explained to me is that the heroin was made with filler. A substance that acts as heroin, but doesn't get you as high. It's a cost cutting measure so the dealer can make twice as much money with the same supply.

Well what the users do is they do the heroin, DON'T get high, and so they do MORE heroin than they usually do......and then their heart stops because it can't handle so much heroin.

So, this may not be anything government related. This may be more capitolism related.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

It’s cut with fentanyl and worse.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

The reason there is any cut at all, especially fentanyl and related substances (what you're talking about) is because of the war on drugs which is the fault of our (capitalist) government.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

The reason it’s cut is mainly because of capitalism and it being illegal. Imagine if alcohol was still illegal, we’d be getting bad moonshine with methanol still in it.

But fentanyl is cheaper and more readily available than opium so capitalism is gonna go do it’s thing. Until it’s legalized and regulated heroin will never just be heroin unless you grow the opium poppies yourself and process them into heroin yourself.

I’d also argue with my tinfoil hat on that the introduction of fentanyl to the heroin supply was intentional, and that are sudden opiate epidemic blamed of pills just happens to coincide with the war on terror - and afghanistan is where heroin comes from. I’d argue the US government brought heroin back into popular use and the Chinese government decided it would finally get long awaited revenge for the opium wars. Both governments get to kill our undesirables. Win win for the elites, less moochers living off the system in their eyes.

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