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Yippee Kay Yay... (The only movie that doesn't depresses me in Xmas)

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 3 days ago

This is such an exhausting topic. Anyone saying it isn't a Christmas movie either hasn't seen it recently enough to remember it or they're being contraian. It takes place during Christmas, a Christmas party even. It has Christmas music woven into the soundtrack. The b plot is the main character fixing his marriage (a common theme of Christmas movies is fixing families).

To be honest, I sort of would view people arguing that it isn't a Christmas movie like people arguing Red One isn't a Christmas movie because it is primarily an action movie. Red One is more obvious due to the marketing and the fact it's literally about saving Santa after he is kidnapped, but it's still very moreso an action movie than other similar titles (The Santa Clause also has a kidnapped Santa subplot and a team of elite elves rescue him, but it is much more minor).

[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 4 days ago
[-] Bashnagdul@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

There are 2 kinds of people, those who say die hard is a Christmas movie, and those who are wrong.

[-] somenonewho@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't wanna be the party pooper here, but Die Hard is a specifically American Christmas Movie. I'm not saying that other people can't or shouldn't enjoy it as a Christmas Movie if so inclined.

But as a German what we "traditionally" watch as Christmas Movies/Shows is something completely different (though also varying greatly from region to region and family to family. I for one still enjoy "Weihnachten bei den Hoppenstedts" a lot my father mostly insists on seeing "Familie Heinz Becker feiert Weihnachten". A movie a lot of people consider to be a Christmas Movie as far as I can tell is "Drei Haselnüsse für Aschenbrödel".

Again I'm not saying that people can't consider "American" Christmas Movies as their own or make them their traditions a friend of mine insists that "In Bruges" is the ultimate Christmas Movie. I just think saying "We all agree" is making it to simple

Edit: Read some more comments and maybe I misunderstood the premise. I'm not saying "Die Hard is not a Christmas Movie" what I'm trying to say is "Christmas Movies are what people make their Christmas Movie regardless of if they are Christmas-y" if I started watching Shrek at every Christmas it would be my Christmas Movie. But I feel what OP wanted to say was "There are Movies that are considered Christmas Movies because of the content and Die Hard should be considered one of them".

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

I think the joke is that Die Hard obviously isn't a traditional Christmas movie. But the story is literally set at Christmas. Many people like Die Hard more than traditional Christmas movies, so when their family members start voting om which Christmas movie to watch this year, they steadfastly nominate Die Hard with the argument that "it really is a Christmas movie, the internet agrees"

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[-] kaos@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago

I thought this was a closed deal? Of course it is a Christmas movie.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

Diehard is 100% a Christmas movie, however, Die Hard 2 which also takes place at Christmas time, is NOT a Christmas movie, as the fact that it's Christmas is coincidental and not at all integral to the plot.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 25 points 4 days ago

I mean if a movie like It's A Wonderful Life can be a Christmas movie, despite most of it not having anything to do with Christmas, then so can Die Hard.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In as much as home alone and Batman is a Christmas movie.

[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

No and I'm tired of people pretending it is. Now, Gremlins on the other hand.

[-] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I'd say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn't happen. If it wasn't for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin's because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 25 points 4 days ago

subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 20 points 4 days ago

Gremlins is also a Christmas movie.

So is Mortal Kombat from the 90s. It’s all about people fighting to be number 1. Just like Christmas shopping.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 4 days ago

That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

The Muppets Christmas Carol is my favourite Christmas movie.

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[-] Sergio@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago

Why Die Hard is a Christmas Movie:

  • there's a grinch who spoils the party
  • "You're, uh...?" "Clay. Bill Clay." (checks directory to see if naughty or nice)
  • need help? call a plump do-gooder (the cop at the donut shop)
  • anxiously expecting a vehicle to land on the roof
  • "It's Christmas, Theo! It's the time of miracles, so be of good cheer!"
  • a good guy climbs down the chimney / elevator shaft
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago

Real reasons:

  1. Happens during a Christmas party.
  2. Christmas music in the score.
  3. B plot involves family mending which is a common trope of Christmas movies.
[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Also, it's about a man attending a party in order to fix his family, and he needs to learn to let go of his pride. Classic Christmas movie message.

[-] rwtwm@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

Jumping on here, because this is often overlooked. If you didn't know the title of the film, and someone played the first 20 mins to you you'd expect a hallmark film. Going to see the estranged wife, trying to repair a relationship, the awkwardness at the Christmas party.

The whole thing subverts Christmas movie tropes. It's not just an action movie set at Christmas. It's a Christmas movie which gets hijacked.

Even the final scene plays on the parody with the 'snow' falling, the comedy comeuppance for the nuisance bad guy, and then they kiss and drive off as 'let it snow' plays.

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[-] mrslt@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Well, yeah. What else would it be?

[-] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago
[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

The real Xmas movie is Eyes Wide Shut

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 9 points 4 days ago

You NEED to download the 35mm scan.

Fucking distributors did Stanley dirty cleaning it up for release. It was under exposed and overdeveloped on purpose to make the film grain pop.

[-] rezz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

What’s the best way to sail the seas for this?

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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Do we really have to do this every year?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I find the topic exhausting because Did Hard is obviously a Christmas themed action movie (and I believe that qualifies as a Christmas movie), but everyone really making a stand about it is sort of being cringe. I don't really know how to explain it. It's like they're acting like it's so wild and crazy to say, like they've found some weird loop hole. I think it's this weird tone of the discussion that leads to the pushback. Because, while it's definitely a Christmas movie, it's not like super Christmas-y. The Christmas aspects could easily be edited out and the movie would still make sense.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, that's what Christmas is for.

[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

I think its important to establish why it's a Christmas movie. I consider it one not just because it's Christmas time in the movie but because it's heavily Christmas themed the entire movie. For this exact same reason I think other movies also fall into this category like gremlins and terrifier 3.

[-] BOFH666@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Hell yeah! Of course, best Christmas movie ever. Multicasting it over the corporate network since last Monday and won't kill the process before 2025!

now i've got a machine gun ho ho ho!

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Bruce thinks it’s a Bruce Willis movie.

… he gets a pass.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

No.

That's like saying Flight Club is a movie about soap.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Haters will say this is fake:

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Absolutely. There can be zero disagreement on this.

[-] mrnarwall@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

It's about a man at a Christmas party that has gone incredibly wrong. It's a Christmas movie

[-] Matombo@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

no it's not

you 'muricans are wierd

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago

Yes, it is.

I used to think it was just a movie that happened during Christmas, but it wasn't a Christmas movie. I changed my mind when it was pointed out that the movie wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Christmas. He was visiting his family for Christmas. It's not a typical Christmas movie, but it is a Christmas movie.

My $.02

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[-] dditty@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

To me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie because it is set on Christmas Eve. I don't think it technically counts as a Christmas movie, but that just makes me consider it a Christmas movie even harder

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

If the only thing a Christmas movie takes is being set on or around Christmas, Batman Returns and Eyes Wide Shut are Christmas movies. Oppenheimer has a Christmas scene, is that a Christmas movie too? Clearly there's a line somewhere.

[-] Platypus@lemmings.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's not the only reason, it literally is about a family man trying to reconcile with his family for Xmas, there's a Grinch trying to ruin the party, a Xmas miracle, let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. It's Christmas Theo.

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