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Valve may be developing a "Steam Box" powered by SteamOS

The new kernel designed for "AMD Lilac" hints at possible new hardware

The device seems more of a competitor for Nvidia Shield than an upcoming Steam Deck 2.

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[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Would buy this day one. I really hope these rumors are true.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

If I could put a decent linux TV targeted distro on a minipc then I'd happily use it now.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Probably could with Bazzite but you'd still have to tinker.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

This is what I'm using, and required no tinkering.

I use it for VR and step mania, too.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I use Bazzite on a handheld and there was absolutely some tinkering at first. It's definitely not a simple as boot up and log in.

[-] mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Depends on your hardware. It mostly just works.

[-] commander@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

It'll primarily be a gaming device but if they did ever push to be a HTPC type box, Roku is more vulnerable than Google and Apple I think. I'd love to see HTPCs get another shot at the living room and get app support from the popular streaming services

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I definitely think that's the last big item steamos is missing, a bar at the top of streaming services.

Edit, that sounded sarcastic but it wasn't, I honestly want that, it would allow me to convert the rest of the family TV's to steam

[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

It's funny cause Valve was selling movies on Steam for a while.

[-] Snassek@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am definitely interested if it has decent apps to replace my aging Roku. I do have the Steam deck docked to my TV. I was interested in an updated Nvidia Shield Pro if it ever came out, but I would like to see what Valve comes up with.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

I'd love a shield replacement (even though it's pretty much fine), but how are you going to get streaming to work properly? Are you going to support all the DRM stuff platforms require to stream reasonable quality video in Linux?

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago

TIL the Steam Deck isn't doing the same thing as the Shield.

[-] Dempf@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

I really hope they do...

I love my Nvidia Shield, but it's definitely aging, and sometimes getting it to actually play 2160p Blu Ray remuxes without stuttering is a chore. Plus Dolby Vision does not even display properly due to "red push" issue, and Nvidia has no plans to fix (they have abandoned the device and the entire market segment).

Currently the only method to get a streaming box to actually display Dolby Vision properly (profile 7 FEL) involves installing Linux (CoreELEC), and I believe the only device with all the proper support (licensing, hardware, etc) is the Ugoos Am6b+.

I much prefer the Jellyfin android client to Kodi, so I've been sticking with the Shield for now. I'd love another Linux based competitor, and hopefully a more polished streaming box from Valve could spur some development of better clients and tools.

I am a bit nervous about Valve actually being able to get all the licensing in place to pull this off.

When I think about how many hours of my life I've wasted and how much room in my brain is dedicated to all these stupid modern formats.....my hope is that a player like Valve entering the market could do some good work. We are in a very sorry state when it comes to compatibility.

Though again..... While I don't have a deep understanding of the issues, it seems like a large chunk of it revolves around licensing, and I don't know how much of a dent Valve can make in that.

[-] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I’ve been waiting for a new shield to replace my Chromecasts for a long time.

I’d choose this one over it in a heartbeat. Hope it’s true.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean all they have to do is the Steam deck without the screen and with a controller. Steam deck 2 hardware to get 1080p.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I don’t quite understand the appeal of a streaming box in most cases. What is the appeal?

[-] SatyrSack@feddit.org 25 points 1 week ago

It turns any TV into a smart TV. Compared to just using the features built into a smart TV, it has a more capable processor, more timely updates with a longer lifetime, and possibly a wider selection of apps. Compared to using something like a game console or PC, it is smaller, more power-efficient, and (if the only feature you care about is streaming) has fewer unnecessary features.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I use a laptop hooked up to my TV which is vastly superior in the most important way for me: ad blocking.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

How much did your laptop cost compared to something like a $199 Shield?

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

This one cost me about $300 refurbished because I also use it for some light gaming. The one I used prior to this one was $160.

[-] wolfshadowheart@leminal.space 2 points 1 week ago

The shield is a bit stronger than light gaming.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 1 points 1 week ago

The shield isn't meant as a gaming device, it's a streaming device. I mean you can run games on it, I guess, but it's an Android device and its purpose is to stream from PC to your TV.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No, it isn't.

You can install emulators on the shield to play classic roms and you can stream games from your PC or the cloud to it. My laptop does both of those things. Plus I can install some modern games like Hades 2, block ads on every video and music streaming service, and be more in control of where my data goes.

I'm pretty sure the only thing the Shield does that my laptop won't is a.i. upscaling which is not an important feature for me.

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Most people, when speaking about a gaming device, aren't talking about the ability to play things from 40 years ago that you could run on a smart toaster

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

That makes sense. I still can’t see the appeal of a bespoke solution, but at least I understand it

[-] DemBoSain@midwest.social 12 points 1 week ago

Of course it depends on the OS, but when NVIDIA started showing ads I installed a 3rd party launcher. It also allows me to install apps that block and skip ads on a major streaming platform. And, if I upgrade my TV I'm not entering my info into a new system, I just plug in the Shield.

[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago

Yup FLauncher, SmartTube, Stremio, and steam for game streaming from my PC to living room.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Dang, wish I had a device that allows me to watch stuff.

[-] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Smart TV hardware (and most software) is a dumpster fire.

[-] Rixonomic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

In addition to what others have said, the ShieldTV is also a moderately capable emulation device. It's how we play N64 games in my household.

And when set up right, it's hands-down my favorite way to watch TV, especially when compared to the modern smart TV experience.

[-] huquad@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

The steam link pucks could've been this the whole time.

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