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[EDIT] Inb4 more people try to suggest that I'm mourning the loss of this scumbag capitalist fuck: No, I'm not sad he's dead. No, I don't think corporate murder is acceptable and no, I would not ever rat to police if I knew the shooter and yes, I believe the punishment fits the crimes he's committed against untold thousands of people. THAT SAID...

I'm not down with vigilante murder or anything because it seems like the slipperiest of slopes toward chaos, but what other option is there in a situation where someone seeks to make an impact in this way? You can't just beat up evil CEOs and let them go back to work. It would be naïve to expect them to change their ways when faced with consequences for their actions and then promptly let go. It just seems like the chances that it emboldens their penchant for exploitative behaviour and disdain for people in need are too high.

We're just born into and strapped to this capitalist ride and expected to sit quiet and make these leeches their billions. How else can this cancerous greed possibly be dealt with? Is vigilante murder the only effective option? Honest questions. I'm terribly conflicted and I'm genuinely curious what more reasonable and intelligent minds than mine think about this because I can't think of an alternative to murder in this case.

Ideally, we wouldn't have to resort to vigilante killings to level the playing field but I 100% understand that we don't live in a society where the rich will ever give a fuck about the rest of us or would ever sacrifice their power over us in the name of goodwill.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Start a political party?

I mean it isn't easy, but if you gain traction, one of the two big parties will, potentially, implement the ideas to grab your votes.

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[-] nzeayn@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

i don't see violance as a first option but i'm not a pacifist, sometimes its going to be the only option. i don't think dropping a random ceo or two is anything more than revolution larping though. this kind of thing is more likely to just make insurnace campuses a target for ramdom shooting in the same way american schools are. a bunch of people just trying to make a living in an economic enviroment where picking your employer is a privilage, will get get unalived along with maybe a low level exec who has little actual power. and we'll see a whole lot of stories about why we should love insurnace companies. i'm not mourning this fucker or feeling sympathy for his family, but it's not a long term plan for improving anyones life. we find ourselves with a fewer billionaire media tycoons and i'll be less sceptical of people suggesting this practice.

[-] uriel238 3 points 4 months ago

The incident still appears to be a professional hit (as of this comment).

That means its much less likely to be about the wrath of countless UHC victims, and more likely a business associate or rival.

That said, we lowly proletariat are already dying, and will do so a lot more as Trump and the Heritage Foundation advance their agenda. The sooner we all get on board with resistance, the better.

That said, there are effective nonviolent means of revolution, but I suspect sooner or later some pretty woman will get killed horribly on camera, and the whole country will start exploding.

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[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks to everyone that spent time writing in response to this. This added context from so many perspectives really clears a lot of things up for me. 🙏

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I'm really not comfortable with all the cheering of this evevtm

The guy might have been a huge POS, he was not personally responsible for a broken and violent system that Americans have created for themselves. Americans continue to democratically elect individuals from the dominant class who promote inequality, they have the system they deserve.

When Obama timidly tried to correct the healthcare system, Americans voted, twice, for someone who promised to destroy what was build and replace it with the “concept of a plan.” They made a democratic choice, they chose a pedophile billionaire to run their country, this is no french revolution.

That CEO guy was just one of millions who WANT the system to be unfair. What is this shooter gonna do, kill every capitalist in the US?

[-] Glitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

That's bull. Democracy isn't how Trump became president either time. It's an oligarchy, powered by dirty money and dirty deals. This one death just saved thousands of lives, if not a lot more. You don't think healthcare CEOs have a direct hand in lobbying and political trickery?

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

This one death just saved thousands of lives, if not a lot more.

I think it's quite naive to believe insurance company will now change their way of doing things because one their CEO got shot. Unfortunately, I think will be replace by another one just like him and the only thing that will probably change is that they will hire security and make "customers" pay for it.

A majority of Americans want the system to be the way it is, keep shooting CEO and they will want the government to act to prevent it.

USA is the result of decades of under-education and media misinformation. Want it or not, a majority of voters chose Epstein's closest friend to be president.

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[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 1 points 4 months ago

We already live in a culture that glorifies constant violence. Roughly one person gets murdered every day in New York City, and dozens have been killed across the U.S. since the CEO's death. We wait with bated breath for the next school shooting, or episode of police brutality, to fill the news with more poor bodies. I've even been personally affected, having to dive out of the way of a fleeing gunman to avoid stray bullets from his automatic.

The only thing that has happened is equality. The billionaire class that has fostered and profited from the culture of violence has had a taste of what we get to go through every day. If there is any slippery slope to slide down, it has been sloped by the bourgeoise.

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