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I was planning to donate the couple bucks I had left over from the year to the charity called “San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance”, I was doing a background check on CharityNavigator and they gave the charity full ratings so it seemed good.

Then I stumbled upon the salary section. What the fuck? I earn <20k a year and was planning to contribute to someone’s million dollar salary? WHAT.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/951648219

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[-] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 4 months ago

It would be nice if organisations were run by people who were so dedicated to the job that they'd do it for free or at least on a survival wage, but it is difficult to find someone with both the right qualifications and the willingness to do it cheaply.

The figures aren't outrageous for those positions and as a non-profit they do have a board who made the decision to pay those amounts.

It's not like a private company where the owner/CEO can just grab the money. The board members voted to hire someone and offered those amounts.

If you want to change this kind of thing, you need to attend the annual meeting in which the board is elected. I've been elected to a few board positions in non-profit organisations and let me tell you: It's really easy to get on a board. Most places have difficulties filling the positions or you can easily outcompete other candidates simply by wanting to be there. It's boring as fuck, but important stuff sometimes happens and it's a good experience to have.

So if you want to actually contribute to that non-profit, you might want to save your few dollars and instead give them some of your time to help them in the right direction. Assuming you're dedicated to the cause in the first place that is. If you have something to say, you will be heard, because quite frankly, half the board members only come for the free food.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

You think a zoo CEO being paid $1.2 million per year is normal? Really????

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[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

While not ideal, I would like to note that the charity has a revenue of 392 M$. Spending 1-2% on salaries of top exec is not that bad if it prevents them from misusing the funds. A lot of the time, the alternative to high salaries for people in power is those people giving in to corruption since the risk/benefit encourages it. Just look at politics for an example.

That being said, wtf is chief philanthropy officer?!

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

What you are describing is blackmail.

"Pay us exorbitant salaries or we'll be forced to embezzle the funds"

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's also human nature for the kind of sociopath executive positions attract.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

So we should just accept that and pay them off rather than putting in mechanisms to prevent that and hiring people who are motivated by something other than the payout?

It might seem like we have no choice but we do, collectively, hold the power of the purse here. And I think this post is a great example of that.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

No, we shouldn't, but that's what is happening.

And yes, I agree.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Indeed , disgusting and out of control. Start taxing their asses.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Okay, so think about it like this:

Suppose your job is making wooden chairs. It's takes you the exact same skills to make a wooden chair to sell for profit, as it does to make a wooden chair to donate to a chairless children's charity, right? So why would you spend all your time and skills doing a job that's eventually going to bankrupt you? While you might do a few chairs because you feel like it's morally right, the bulk of your work is going to be selling chairs because that's how you sustain yourself.

CEOs are in the same situation. A 500-person for-profit company takes the exact same skill set to run as a 500-person non-profit. So the reality is that non-profits need to either be competitive in pay with for-profits, or they have to be attractive in ways other than compensation so they can entice CEOs to work for them.

Now, none of that is to say that the scale of CEO compensation is appropriate, because it's not. But that's the calculus a non-profit has to make.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Every dollar you give feeds an animal.

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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 4 months ago

for me its more like whats the lowest paid worker. Nowadays you are going to have trouble under six figures in any major city and the ceo is not much over 10x that. Now I doubt the lowest paid worker makes that but it would be great if they did.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That's why I'm very picky about donating. When I was at my very first job, pushing 1200 packages an hour at UPS for hourly wages, I donated to the United Way via payroll deduction. I was listening to the news in my car when I heard the CEO of United Way took his family on a $2M vacation. I had that payroll deduction removed on the very next shift.

[-] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It's not exactly the charities fault.

The real issue is that for profit companies can pay their CEOs this much, which means charities have to compete if they want a good CEO too.

In reality we should be cracking down on companies hoarding wealth towards to their CEOs at exorbitant rates, that way charities won't have to pay a wage like this just to function and even hire a CEO.

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[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

Wow, that's crazy. I just checked out my local zoo and there are only 2 executives with a pay package of $200k. The rest are unpaid trustees.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Damn, my work at a non profit yields me free coffee and water. I think I'm underselling myself

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's a racket based on torturing and exploiting animals. Don't ever donate to that. What kind of ethics did you expect?

Donate to the cause of palestinian liberation. They're a primary reason that the fascists are trying to end non-profits. They actually need support and actually help people, life, the planet, etc.

[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

How do they get a salary if they are non-profit? Does the donation money just go to them?

[-] FundMECFSResearch 9 points 4 months ago

Non-profits pay fixed salaries. Instead of having an owner who “profits” all the extra money left over.

[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Fixed to THAT much is a crime! Lol.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 5 points 4 months ago

That’s what I was thinking.

I know america has this elitist managment culture of that values people who “earn their worth” and are “entrepreneurial” or whatever, but that doesn’t ever justify a million dollar salary to me.

[-] HoneyMustardGas@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It doesn't seem like charity if some of your donation goes to the CEO. I understand they gotta make a living but to still call it a charity and run by millionaires that got rich BECAUSE of that charity is ridiculous.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago

It's a percentage (less than 7% of donations for all salaries). They are a very large non-profit...

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago

Does your bank accept payments of $0? Or the grocery stores? Even if your organization doesn't generate profits, people still need an income to survive...

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[-] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Do you live in San Diego? It's incredibly expensive to live there; that said, these pays are far to fucking high even for SD.

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