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Hosting provider Uberspace has suffered another setback in a German court. The court of appeal ruled against youtube-dl's former hosting provider, holding it liable for alleged violations of YouTube's copyright protection measures. The owner of the company is currently considering further appeal options. Meanwhile, youtube-dl remains available on GitHub.

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[-] cupcakezealot 54 points 3 weeks ago

by their logic, right clicking an image and clicking save is illegal.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago

Give it a few more years and it will probably be over there. I don't know whether it's an ongoing thing or what since I haven't kept up with it, but there is/was(?) a case of some Springer Verlag trying to say that an ad blocker violates copyright law, going after Eyeo/Adblocker Plus.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, Eyeo/ABP deserved everything they had coming at them. They not only blocked ads, but there was code found to replace Amazon affiliate links with an affiliate id from them. (German report here - look for the part about typoRules.js.)

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 points 3 weeks ago

Fair enough.

[-] Nawor3565 10 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, that was Getty Image's whole case against Google's "view image" button. And Getty won that legal battle, so clearly they have some legal ground to stand on, even though most people would think it's bullshit.

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

What logic do you mean?

Images are typically not encrypted with protection measures [in transit].

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 33 points 3 weeks ago

The Hamburg Regional Court ruled that youtube-dl violates the law as it bypasses YouTube’s anti-circumvention measures.

Many Hamburg court not know shit on technology and listen to big company instead.

While Uberspace hoped to overturn the lower court’s judgment, the Higher Regional Court of Hamburg decided to reject the appeal in full.

And appeal rejected by same shit people. Wait until arrive at proper court.

[-] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, OLG Hamburg is known for making bad judgements. There's a reason many companies choose to file a lawsuit at this court.

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

lower and higher court are different people

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

yes. different people, same shit people.

same shit translated from "gleicher Scheiss", meaning they do same shit

[-] Bougie_Birdie 2 points 3 weeks ago

In English we have an idiom, "same shit, different day," which means dealing with the same sort of unpleasant task until it's routine. Do you have something similar?

This Hamburg court thing sounds like something I'd call "same shit, different pay," which would be like when you have an issue with your boss so you appeal to their boss, and find out that they're just as bad except they're higher in the organization.

[-] far_university190@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

We have "immer/alles der gleiche Scheiss" which can use behind statement to say something is same for few time already and not nice. Example: "Kupplung durchgebrannt? Immer der gleiche Scheiss" for "Clutch broken? Always the same shit" when a lot of car come into repair, all have broken clutch. Sometime also indicate getting tired of it be same.

But i think can be used in way of "same shit, different day" for task. Not know if used often.

[-] style99@lemm.ee 30 points 3 weeks ago

This seems like a good time to remind people to update to yt-dlp 2024.11.18, if they haven't already.

[-] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

why? for me it shows some warnings but still works

[-] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

You can click on that link and view the changelog if you want. There didn’t seem to be a whole ton related to YouTube specifically, although that version does remove oauth support for YouTube as it’s irrevocably broken by Google apparently.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 12 points 3 weeks ago

What a shitshow. And there is a lot of harm done to everyone if this comes true.

[-] vikinghoarder@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago

Were they hosting the youtube-dl source?

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Even then, are shops selling kitchen knives (mind you, despite the name, youtube-dl can be used to download videos from various sources) held liable for people doing murders with them?

EDIT: On a sidenote, the Hamburg courts are renowned to know jack shit about technology and often produce rulings against any common sense.

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The lawsuit is not about downloading, but about enabling circumventing protections.

By your analogy, it's not about the shops selling kitchen knives, but hosting a side door to a protected weapons/knifes shop.

(I hate analogies. In general. But wtf is that analogy now that we included more context?)

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, youtube-dl supports a plethora of sites. And you can download from almost all of them without breaking any laws. Like kitchen knives have 100s of uses that are totally fine and don't hurt anyone. I stand by my analogy.

[-] Kissaki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

Hamburg court. Notorious court for such digital rights cases.

[-] Reshirams_Rad_Slam@mastodo.neoliber.al 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"GitHub initially complied but later changed course. After consulting legal experts, including those at the EFF, it restored the youtube-dl repository. GitHub also launched a million-dollar defense fund to assist developers in similar disputes."

Why is Github protecting them? They removed bypass paywalls, no?

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